More gun talk, just for kicks!

Toecutter · Post by **Toecutter** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 3:09 am

I did a little more research on the web related to guns (what else do I do with my free time?) on my favorite website, http://www.chuckhawks.com/index2.guns.htm, and found a nice concealed carry weapon that I would buy in a heartbeat if it were available in .38 Super.

The weapon in question is the Bersa Thunder .380 ACP. Basically, it's a cheap Russian knock-off of the Walther PPK (James Bond's weapon of choice, and preferred by many who carry concealed, including undercover cops and the CIA). It even uses the same style extended handgrip magazine, but just a lower quality.

It has a few drawbacks (I'd list them all, but I'd have to cite the source previously mentioned according to MLA format), but like many "junk guns" (the weapons preferred by inner-city gangs for their cheap price, availability, and cheap, dare I say less than lethal, ammo?), the Bersa's drawbacks are solved with cheap aftermarket magazines, and your good, ol' fashioned maintenance.

Of course, the .380 ACP is definately not a "junk" cartridge. Using the same .355 slug as the .357 Magnum, .38 Special +P, and .38 Super/.38 ACP, it follows a nice, flat trajectory, conserves it's stopping power relatively well over 100 yards, and is widely available (the .38 Special is the most common pistol cartridge purchased/used worldwide).

Of course, as my previous post (Need a Second Opinion...) mentioned, I'm basically set on a Mossberg "Persuader". But there's just too many good toys out there to keep one from drooling.

Out of curiosity, though, does anyone know of an autoloading .22 WMR (.22 Magnum)? The rimfire cartridge is most widely used in semi-auto blowback action rifles, like the Ruger 10/22 and 77/22, but like so many other rimfire cartridges, has moved into the realm of target revolvers and silhouette pistols. However, with all the research I've done, I haven't found any autoloading pistols from the major guys (Beretta, Colt, Taurus, and Smith & Wesson) chambered in .22 WMR.

If no one makes them, can someone send me the specs on the .22 WMR cartridge, and a comparison of the casing with any known .224 slug catridges (.218 Bee, .22 Hornet, .223 Remington, etc, which all happen to be centerfire). I'm trying to see if there are any centerfire .224 caliber autoloaders out there, which could be adapted to fire .22 WMR, much like what Wildey J. Moore did with the .475 Wildey Magnum (http://www.wildeyguns.com), or how the Desert Eagle became the first autoloader to fire .357, .41, and .44 Magnum.

Also, if I remember correctly, the new .17 HMR cartridge everyone's going crazy over (for it's incredible accuracy and muzzle velocity, making it perfect for varmint hunting and match-grade target practice in a stock rifle) uses a modified version of the same .22 Magnum rimfire casing, with the bottleneck to fit the .17 HMR FMJ "Spitzer" slugs.

Considering there are still plenty of collectors and enthusiasts still endulged in the .44 Automag (as seen in Sudden Impact), a cheap, reliable .22 WMR Automag, or even a more accurate .17 HMR Automag, would have an instant cult following. If Smith and Wesson got on the bandwagon of Magnum-chambered autoloaders, they could bring back the old Automag in a line-up from .17 HMR, .22 WMR, all the way to their new .500 Magnum. If they got the old design to avoid jamming, the Automag line-up could easily be used for anything from cheap plinking, self-defense, back to it's original purpose of big-game hunting.

El Banana · Post by **El Banana** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 3:19 am

I'm working for a college assignment.

And browsing the forums. Fuck me.

I want that gun.

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 4:24 pm

RedFusionX · Post by **RedFusionX** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 4:45 pm

Nuff Said

Farmboybob · Post by **Farmboybob** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 5:09 pm

Nuff said.

El Banana · Post by **El Banana** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:00 pm

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....

RedFusionX · Post by **RedFusionX** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:11 pm

And

And Finally

El Banana · Post by **El Banana** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:19 pm

MINE IS BIGGER!!!

Propyro · Post by **Propyro** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:23 pm

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO DESERT EAGLE

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Propyro · Post by **Propyro** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:26 pm

El Banana wrote:
I want that gun.

heh ... sawn off shot guns ... the gun of teh shoemaker. if you really want one you can problaby pick up an old sideby side and make one. and if you know a thing or two about gun smithing you can make them really well.

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