Need input on some colleges

Timelessblurr · Post by **Timelessblurr** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:24 pm

well the clear things up. BUt in geranll all engineering course are pretty much the same the first 2 years give or take a little.
Getting in to Purdue is really damn hard even if you are in the state out of state they take a very small number.

What state are you in btw that would also help. Out of state turtion is almost double instate.
As for and engineer minor math now that a piece of cake. I think with my major I only need 3 more hours of math and I have a minor in math.

He a kicker for you. If you dual major in EE/CS you automaticly get a math minor since bettween all the math you require for EE and the one math not that is in CS will get your math minor all you ahve to do is declear it. In the next 4 years I will be getting my math minor. (6 years of collage is not my idea of fun thouh. 2 years of Jr collage and all that does is not require me to do 17 hour semster to complete my degree)

What do you want out of the school

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:27 pm

Timelessblurr wrote:well the clear things up. BUt in geranll all engineering course are pretty much the same the first 2 years give or take a little.

Not exactly.

My college had no such thing. Only classes that were the same across engineers was Physics, Calculus and Chemistry. I was taking ECE classes my Freshman year and I know all engineers don't take that.

In fact, come my Sophomore year, I as taking almost all ECE courses and things specific to my major.

paizuri · Post by **paizuri** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:40 pm

No offense Timelessblurr, but you're overgeneralizing things here. All schools are not the same, in either their course curriculum or in the degrees they offer and certainly not with respect to graduation requirements. What may be true at your school will not necessarily apply to whatever schools we have gone to or the schools that SephirothJenova is looking at.

That being said, have you (SephirothJenova) visited/thought about visiting any of your prospective choices? It's one thing to see their heavily propagandized booklets/websites and another to actually walk around campus. Taking a school tour should give you a little taste of what it'd be like to go there and most, if not all, schools' tours are conducted by actual students who you can ask more specific questions of during and after the tour, if they have the time.

Also, some schools have special programs where prospective students can stay the night or the weekend with student volunteers to get a taste of campus life. My freshman year at Duke, I entertained several prospective students, many who actually later enrolled. But I was honest about it because it wasn't like the school was giving me any incentive to do so and even dissuaded a couple people because they clearly had their hearts set elsewhere and visiting the schools gave them a better idea of where they really wanted to go.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:46 pm

Paizuri brings up an excellent point with tours and such. Even better, see if you can sit in on some lectures and stuff. I know some of the larger classes allow that. Obviously not the smaller since it's disturbing.

I also suggest a student-oriented tourgroup since they seem to be more honest when asked questions.

SephirothJenova · Post by **SephirothJenova** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:02 pm

I haven't actually visited any, but I'm thinking of taking a trip down to Mizzou and Rolla sometime this year. Any insights on what colleges have overall good curriculum/teachers/etc. for Physics, Math or Engineering (not specific for one cagtegory). I'm really still kinda undecided about what I'm going to do, so I'd like a school with mainly all three good programs. Here's my list so far:

Purdue
Mizzou
Rolla
MIT (long shot, so I probably won't get in)
Rutgers
Univeristy Of Washington (still need to research and stuff)
and now Texas Tech (not so sure about though)

Sephiroth

BTW, I live near St. Louis, MO.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:09 pm

SephirothJenova wrote:I haven't actually visited any, but I'm thinking of taking a trip down to Mizzou and Rolla sometime this year. Any insights on what colleges have overall good curriculum/teachers/etc. for Physics, Math or Engineering (not specific for one cagtegory). I'm really still kinda undecided about what I'm going to do, so I'd like a school with mainly all three good programs. Here's my list so far:

Purdue
Mizzou
Rolla
MIT (long shot, so I probably won't get in)
Rutgers
Univeristy Of Washington (still need to research and stuff)
and now Texas Tech (not so sure about though)

Sephiroth

BTW, I live near St. Louis, MO.

Blasphemy! Now of course I need to put my alma mater on that list, but I'd like to think it's not entirely based on my bias.

University of Illinois @ Urbana-Champaign

I'm quite surprised it's not on there considering you live in St. Louis and it's about 2 - 3 hours north and probably one of the better universities in your area (the midwest). I believe my ex-girlfriend lives in Edwardsville which is right by there and she goes to UIUC as well.

Now since I need to back it up instead of my bias, UIUC is #3 in Electrical and Computer Engineering in the nation (among colleges with a Ph. D program). I believe we're behind MIT, Stanford and Berkley (who are tied). Sadly, we were #2 when I started and after I leave, all we do is fall, but I'm rambling

.

As for Computer Science, I believe we're in the top 10, but not sure since I was in ECE and obviously pay attention to that in particular. I know MIT and Carnegie Melon are near the top in this field for obvious reasons.

Sorry about the other things like Physics and Math since I don't know the rankings, but what I do know, I KNOW and I know UIUC is a good school in the engineering area with great professors and good facilities/equipment (which is important for advance classes and labs).

Since you're technically in MO, I guess cost might be an issue since it'd technically be out of state, but that's the case with most of the universities you named.

Timelessblurr · Post by **Timelessblurr** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:39 am

Well I am not really over generalizing much at all the first 2 years most engineers take the about the same corse. You have 6 -9 hours of eglish. 9 hours of calusu ,statics 6 hours of chemisty, 6 hours of phyicals plus you have 6 hours of history. that most of your first 2 years. You get the idea. Lots and lots of math before you really get into the core engineering. I think most people here at tech are takeing 3-6 hours a semster that is from there engineering fields. I cannt really use my segral as a example though since took out a lot of my core corse. I have 7 hours of engineering corus for Civil and by next year almost all of my semsters will be civil engeering.
If you go CpE if the school has it I willing to bet you can switch over to EE or the other with out taking much of a hit in extra classes you have to take semple because a lot of the earily corse prouble are the same.

To do enigeering you have to like math.

On topic go viste the campuses and get a tour of them. Find how the school is rate by the ACsomething or other because part of that rating is based on class size. If this is you senior year of HS you school prouble lets you have so many collage days a year (YOu get a free absants from school that does not count agaist you). As for phyicals I can tell you that class prouble sucks where ever you take it. Engineers have to take calucus bases phycials. If you get in to Predure go there it the best in the nations. I recomend agaist MIT simple because there engineering degrees are not creited so it take you 2 times as long in the field before you can become lissianeds.

if this post is hard to understand I am sorry I running on very little sleep because I was up to 2:30 last night workign on a that is due tomorrow. (I have to study for 2 test tommorrow and i dont have time to write the paper today)

BogoSort · Post by **BogoSort** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:55 am

No offense Timelessblurr, but it's a lot more motivating to listen to someone's college advice when it's an eloquently written piece, rather than a post that's grammatically horrible, incoherent, and laden with tyops.

And since when is MIT not accredited for engineering? Last I checked the were a top engineering school. Though if you want to go straight into the industry it isn't necessarily the best choice, as their focus is more on research.

Timelessblurr · Post by **Timelessblurr** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 1:01 pm

No it not that they are not a good school hell they are a great school. Just there program I know for Civil is not acreited. If you go though MIT to become for exmple a CE it will take you 6 years after you get out instead of 3 to become a fully lissian CE. this is because they program is not ASCE serturtifed. And if they are not certifide in CE it would not surpise me if there other programs have the same thing about them. They may be a great school but they are 2 full of them selves thinking there program is better while in realtity I will be making more money faster than an MIT grad because I become fully lissian in 1/2 the time it will take a MIT grad to do it.
Where ever you go make sure they have a American socitei of _______ Engineers because that means they are ceritficed. Those engintion groups are what set the standenders for engineering in the United states
(Hey I have a class that explained that all to me.)

Timelessblurr · Post by **Timelessblurr** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 1:03 pm

Also be careful of reasearch orintated schools they care less about there stundents and more about there research.

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