How to fix our political, economic and education system

[danielwang]

Step 1:
Privatize everything. Revise our law system so that there are just two pinciples - Poeple have the rights, people make the decisions, as long as certain rules for contracts and obligations are fulfilled.

Step 2:
Switch the goverments of the countries for a while.
Pissed off at George Bush and Congress? Say hello to Tony Blair and Parliament.

Step 3:
Enjoy the following:
Privatized cram schools just like Japan
Screw Medicare and Social Security. We'll have a National Health System just like Britain, except you get to choose (or not) a HMO provider and you pay money.
No taxes or laws, EVER! Get on the road, you pay a toll and follow the regulation of the road provider. Want safe roads? Go ahead and pay. Want cheap roads in poor condition and no spped limit? Pay significantly less.
Your insurance would pay the firefighters and paramedics at a private company.

How would we prevent corporations from selling unsafe services and taking over the industry, etc? Simple: Privatized regulatory agencies. A service or product is voluntarily tested by a company like Underwriters Labs and gets a seal of approval. anyone can start an underwriting company, as long as the trademark is not used. However, if a underwriting company is found to be untrustworthy, they lose their value in the consumer and less companies buy their testing service. Simple.

There's a solution for everything. Think this solution is wrong, feel free to post any scenario here.

[kthulhu]

Step 1:
Privatize everything. Revise our law system so that there are just two pinciples - Poeple have the rights, people make the decisions, as long as certain rules for contracts and obligations are fulfilled.

Except that corporations have a fair amount of influence as it is. Some things (like roads) we don't need numerous private competitors for.

Step 2:
Switch the goverments of the countries for a while.
Pissed off at George Bush and Congress? Say hello to Tony Blair and Parliament.

I fail to see how this will fix anything. Hell, it'd probably make things worse. You're talking about taking people who might not even know how to handle their own nation's politics very well, and having them run a country with a different system, laws, and culture.

Sounds like a recipe for political disaster, not to mention the disturbing breach of national sovereignty this idea suggests. Most Americans don't want the British way of doing things, and I'm pretty sure the British feel the same about the American way.

Step 3:
Enjoy the following:
Privatized cram schools just like Japan

A cram school is a supplementary school, that students attend in addition to their regular school. And I don't see why we need a radical change to do this - someone can just set up their own chain of schools and offer it NOW.

Screw Medicare and Social Security. We'll have a National Health System just like Britain, except you get to choose (or not) a HMO provider and you pay money.

Which is different from our current system....how? Sure, we're not paying for Medicare in our taxes, but how can optional HMO paying be better, or even be considered a "National Health System"?

No taxes or laws, EVER! Get on the road, you pay a toll and follow the regulation of the road provider. Want safe roads? Go ahead and pay. Want cheap roads in poor condition and no spped limit? Pay significantly less.

A functioning road system IS critical to a good economy. Putting in the extra hassles that privatization could create would hamper commercial trade, not increase it.

If you don't want laws, see Mogadishu, Somalia in the early 1990s for the result of that policy idea. And America (thankfully and not) has the guns and population to make that look like nothing. It'd lead to civil war - and all your ideas will be ink on burning paper, while you will be lucky to escape swinging from a streetlamp with a noose around your neck.

Your insurance would pay the firefighters and paramedics at a private company.

So, we're basically moving the money we pay for these services from the government (which benefits everyone, at least) to a private company, that can't be guaranteed to do a better job (and may, in fact, do worse), and which will only benefit that company.

Something to realize - with our current firefighting system, you STOP the blaze, irregardless of who it threatens, because it's an unpredictable element that can destroy everyone's house if left unchecked. Are you suggesting that we don't put out the fires of people who are uninsured? Only turn on the hose when an insured person's house catches on fire? Not only is that, well, kind of heartless, but it's dangerous and stupid.

As for paramedics, there are many contract ambulance companies out there right now. The bill gets added when you go to the hospital, so people are already paying for ambulance service as is.

How would we prevent corporations from selling unsafe services and taking over the industry, etc? Simple: Privatized regulatory agencies. A service or product is voluntarily tested by a company like Underwriters Labs and gets a seal of approval. anyone can start an underwriting company, as long as the trademark is not used. However, if a underwriting company is found to be untrustworthy, they lose their value in the consumer and less companies buy their testing service. Simple.

Except that most people don't look for the regulation information. If it's on the shelf, it's probably been tested, and the odds of it doing bad things when used properly are low - that's how it's been working for decades. Setting up private, competing regulatory agencies is a hassle for the consumer, and has the potential to create "wood approvals", that have no basis or testing behind them.

There's a solution for everything. Think this solution is wrong, feel free to post any scenario here.

This doesn't sound like a solution - it sounds like it would aggravate the problem.

[TheRealNeoHentaiMaster]

IM THE ONLY PERSON WHO COULD FIGURE IT ALL OUT AND IM ONLY A TEENAGER WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!............

[post-it]

T_T . . this guy watches too much Robo Cop!

[NME]

You'd think that if all these things were such a good idea they'd have been done already.

Fin.

[madmallard]

Step 1:
Privatize everything. Revise our law system so that there are just two pinciples - Poeple have the rights, people make the decisions, as long as certain rules for contracts and obligations are fulfilled.

Except that corporations have a fair amount of influence as it is. Some things (like roads) we don't need numerous private competitors for.

thats contradictory. the current setup is bad because usually only one or two corps have the 'fair amount of influence' and the influence they have is over something they shouldnt: regulation.

Step 3:
Enjoy the following:
Privatized cram schools just like Japan

A cram school is a supplementary school, that students attend in addition to their regular school. And I don't see why we need a radical change to do this - someone can just set up their own chain of schools and offer it NOW.

we already do.

Screw Medicare and Social Security. We'll have a National Health System just like Britain, except you get to choose (or not) a HMO provider and you pay money.

Which is different from our current system....how? Sure, we're not paying for Medicare in our taxes, but how can optional HMO paying be better, or even be considered a "National Health System"?

simple answer. no tax revenue to 'redistribute.' the 2nd biggest problem with social security is that its a slush fund for politicians' over zealous money spending.

Your insurance would pay the firefighters and paramedics at a private company.

So, we're basically moving the money we pay for these services from the government (which benefits everyone, at least) to a private company, that can't be guaranteed to do a better job (and may, in fact, do worse), and which will only benefit that company.

Something to realize - with our current firefighting system, you STOP the blaze, irregardless of

*waves his finger* Irregardless isn't a word. its just 'regardless.'

[/quote] who it threatens, because it's an unpredictable element that can destroy everyone's house if left unchecked. Are you suggesting that we don't put out the fires of people who are uninsured? Only turn on the hose when an insured person's house catches on fire? Not only is that, well, kind of heartless, but it's dangerous and stupid.

As for paramedics, there are many contract ambulance companies out there right now. The bill gets added when you go to the hospital, so people are already paying for ambulance service as is. [/quote]

Kinda reminds you of Sol Bianca.

[Jim Hawkings21122]

lets' just get the same gov system as japan only without the bad economy system.

[Propyro]

Step 1:
Privatize everything. Revise our law system so that there are just two pinciples - Poeple have the rights, people make the decisions, as long as certain rules for contracts and obligations are fulfilled.

eh, were already on that road.

Step 2:
Switch the goverments of the countries for a while.
Pissed off at George Bush and Congress? Say hello to Tony Blair and Parliament.

i don't know if you can get a more stagnant government the the liberal party of canada ... so far they've managed to break jsut about every election promise they made ... like the income tax deduction ... yea fucking right ... reduce our income tax, thats as old as "i won't cum in your mouth".

Step 3:
Enjoy the following:
Privatized cram schools just like Japan
Screw Medicare and Social Security. We'll have a National Health System just like Britain, except you get to choose (or not) a HMO provider and you pay money.
No taxes or laws, EVER! Get on the road, you pay a toll and follow the regulation of the road provider. Want safe roads? Go ahead and pay. Want cheap roads in poor condition and no spped limit? Pay significantly less.
Your insurance would pay the firefighters and paramedics at a private company.

yea, we already have a Social Health Plan ... OHIP, puls i think you can get additional insurance to cover other shit thats not in the plan. Roads are also already becoming privatized ... one of the most used highways in Ontario, the 407 is owned by some company in Spain.

How would we prevent corporations from selling unsafe services and taking over the industry, etc? Simple: Privatized regulatory agencies. A service or product is voluntarily tested by a company like Underwriters Labs and gets a seal of approval. anyone can start an underwriting company, as long as the trademark is not used. However, if a underwriting company is found to be untrustworthy, they lose their value in the consumer and less companies buy their testing service. Simple.

There's a solution for everything. Think this solution is wrong, feel free to post any scenario here.

get a seal of approval from an underwriting company? A company who's loyalty and opinions could most likely be bought and sold fairly easily.

i personaly like the idea of just bulldozing every city and try to go back to a simplistic life style ... actualy just live like the amish ... though we can problaby do with out the bible belt being lashed across our backs ...


Am i a strange fucked up dreamer? yes.

Do i know a lot of people will die from pitifully stupid things like this? yes, but i still think theres about 5 billion too many peple alive any ways. and if i would happen to be one of those peopel well, ce la vie.

will this ever happen? not fucking likely.

do i have any fucking idea what i'm talking about or some of the complecations behind my ideals? nope, now leave me alone.

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[Mroni]

Lets keep the one we got. Changing it is too complicated,Boring and the only thing I support is the goverment lowering taxes.



Mr Oni

[Roke]

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