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SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 8:53 pm

Hm... I didn't like Akira much (not my type of movie, I'm not much for just action) but I just thought of something...

Why is it okay to otaku if a Japanese company adapts a non-Japanese movie/story/etc. (see: Metropolis, from a German film) - indeed, credits the anime company for thinking of the idea - but it's EEEEEEEVIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLL if someone adapts an anime? Isn't that a double standard?

Not only that, but the writers/directors know what they're doing. They don't intend to make a frame by frame remake. They are adapting a story in a particular cultural context into another cultural context, and in a different time, and with different technical strengths and constraints.

Do people actually want a frame by frame remake? C'mon, did anyone like that remake of Psycho? No. What's the point of doing everything obsessively the same as what's already been filmed/animated? If nothing new is brought to the story, nothing new is said?

*shrugs* I don't expect anyone to agree, just thinking out loud.

And that NGE parody thing was quite funny, thanks for posting it. 8)

KLin · Post by **KLin** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 9:18 pm

Because 'making it more accesible to Western audiences' usually means at least one thing:

The characters become Americans and while that can work well at times. It just seems 'weird' and 'foreign' to fans.

The Guyver live action movie had this (Although, despite that it wasn't adapted too poorly)

Now if a Japanese company or perhaps HK company adapted an anime to live action:

The characters stay Asian.

The Iria live action movie I believe was made by a Japanese company so it managed to retain a lot of it's 'Asian qualities.'

I'm not trying to be racist or anything. I'm just saying there's just some sort of little bits of cultural differences between a movie done mostly by Americans and those done mostly by Asians. Although nowadays as they collaborate on more and more movies the cultural division line is thankfully starting to blur a bit.

Dark Kamui · Post by **Dark Kamui** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 10:18 pm

Nothing is more scarier that "LIVE DBZ"

priuscomet · Post by **priuscomet** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 11:44 pm

Neptune L`amour wrote:This is still scarier

scary, yes... but i'm still interested...

Beefmaster10000 · Post by **Beefmaster10000** » Fri Aug 16, 2002 1:29 am

I am interested in a live action Akira. I think it would be kind of cool to see it live action. I am also looking forward to that live action Dragon Ball movie, hehe.

priuscomet · Post by **priuscomet** » Fri Aug 16, 2002 7:53 am

you post just to mock?! dork...

SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Fri Aug 16, 2002 10:22 am

KLin wrote:Because 'making it more accesible to Western audiences' usually means at least one thing:

The characters become Americans and while that can work well at times. It just seems 'weird' and 'foreign' to fans.

The Guyver live action movie had this (Although, despite that it wasn't adapted too poorly)

Now if a Japanese company or perhaps HK company adapted an anime to live action:

The characters stay Asian.

The Iria live action movie I believe was made by a Japanese company so it managed to retain a lot of it's 'Asian qualities.'

I'm not trying to be racist or anything. I'm just saying there's just some sort of little bits of cultural differences between a movie done mostly by Americans and those done mostly by Asians. Although nowadays as they collaborate on more and more movies the cultural division line is thankfully starting to blur a bit.

Well, I don't see how that makes it inherently better. Is their nationality crucial to the plot? In a case where the story is hinged on cultural establishments or traditions or history or political goings-on or something of that nature, then yes, it has to be in the same context in order to make sense. (For instance, Grave of the Fireflies couldn't be moved out of its context.)

But if it's not, say, the lion's share of fantasy and sci-fi anime out there, what difference does it really make?

I don't think one's nationality is an essential part of their character. To some, their culture is a guiding force, and that's different - but I think the general run of people are just, to me, people, regardless of context.

But maybe that's just me. And I have to get going so I won't see this topic again for a week. Arrgh. ^_^;

skanks · Post by **skanks** » Fri Aug 16, 2002 11:13 am

That doesn't make sense,i followed that hyperlink and it said Ikari is still a rumour, then theres a sticker of EVA, theres no way the series could be shoved into standard hollywood movie format. (although hasn't stopped them before) but the whole thing is 14 yrs old born at the time of second impact, Keena Reeves cannot pass for 14yrs old.
That and I couldn't find anything on that site about EVA.
It scares me, bugger letting kenshin do it, i want blood myself.

Neptune L`amour · Post by **Neptune L`amour** » Fri Aug 16, 2002 12:36 pm

I can say with a *ahem* "fair" amount of certainty that the Eva movie is a fake.

RichLather · Post by **RichLather** » Fri Aug 16, 2002 9:56 pm

Y'all are aware that a live-action DragonBall already exists, right?

It's an extraordinarily bad HK flick that pops up in the Japanese Animation Hell rotation, usually as part of the "bad live-action remakes" segment that also features live-action Tetsujin 28, Giant Robo, and the Japanese Spider-Man show.[/i]

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KILL IT! KILL IT IN THE HEAD!

Is that evangelion thing for real???