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Post by kthulhu » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:22 pm

RamonesFan2020204 wrote:Bad music- bad musik-1.Music that sucks and isn't good. 2.Satanic music that I will NOT fall victim to.
Still not very good reasoning. And how will you fall victim to satanic music? Worship Satan from its bad influence? If so, better be careful with the anime - a lot of it has questionable content, and is of a sketchy moral character.


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Post by Nemoxs » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:23 pm

Satan cant make you woreship him cause you listen to punk rawk, or some hard music.


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Post by kthulhu » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:41 pm

RamonesFan2020204 wrote:I wanna be an caring and loving person that wants to grow to be an old man and go to heaven when he dies, I don't wanna be some heroin addict that listens to garbage like Manson, Tool, NIN, Fear Factory, etc.
I listen plenty of hard music, and I don't smoke anything, shoot up, take pills, drink heavily, shit like that. Lots of people are like me. Lots of people have the same goal you do. I suspect you're a Christian - a lot of Christian sects believe that you can do bad things, be an atrocious crud, and if you find redemption and walk the good path before you die, you can still go to heaven.

People like Carla Faye Tucker in Electric Texas, who claimed to orgasm when she murdered several people and was sentenced to death. Pat Robertson of all people protested this sentence, on the grounds that she "found Christ" and hence should not be executed, but instead should get life in prison. Regardless of one's views on the death penalty, "finding God" should not absolve you from a sentence (and thankfully it didn't).

So try to rock out, do your own thinking, and don't worry about life too much - after all ,the God that can't rock out probably isn't much fun to be with :wink: .
Nemoxs wrote:Satan cant make you woreship him cause you listen to punk rawk, or some hard music.


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Post by Nurd » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:42 pm

RamonesFan2020204 wrote:Hey, I respect my mother. She's one of the nicest people I know. She has good visions on certain things. She warned me about Marilyn Manson and NIN, and how bad they are when I was 10 or 11 years old, and I've taken her advice since then. And I'm not 13, I'm 17, so I'm STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL! Rock isn't supposed to be about depression and suicide, it's supposed to be about partying, having a good time, love, and some other stuff. My mother has a good vision on certain things. While I'm sure she doesn't like EVERYTHING I like, she still thinks I have good taste. I wanna be an caring and loving person that wants to grow to be an old man and go to heaven when he dies, I don't wanna be some heroin addict that listens to garbage like Manson, Tool, NIN, Fear Factory, etc.
There is nothing wrong with respect. I respect the hell out of my parents for putting up with my brother and I's crap for the past 27 years. Hell long after we've both moved out they still put up with us for who knows what reason. But my respect for my parents does not mean I'm going to use their opinion on my tastes in any argument as it's not relevant, as nice a person as your mom might be, her opinion doesn't mean dick here.

High school eh? You go to public school?

The kind of music you like does not change who *YOU* are, you can be all the loving and caring person you want to be while rocking out to Manson, or NIN, or whatever other Industrial, hard rock, stuff you want.

When the international coalition of Rock comes by and makes you the international rock czar, perhaps then you can comment on rock is supposed to be about, until then you have your opinion, and quite franky it's rather sad of you to believe that you somehow know what rock is about especially since it has existed much longer than you have.

I must be behind, I listen to alot of those bands, and ones like them, and by god I haven't had my obligatory heroin addiction.

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Post by Nemoxs » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:47 pm

Yet.

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Post by RamonesFan2020204 » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:47 pm

But she's right about Manson and NIN.

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Post by Jace Tsunami » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:50 pm

Even if there is a Satan, and satanic music, it doesn't change the fact there are non believers in religion because there is not ONE single bit of evidence of higher powers.

I'm using this to support the fact that no "mear mortal" has the power tob rainwash you with their music.

Even if they support Satan or what not, their music can in no way harm you. Kids that fall victim to these lyrics and such are weak minded, adolesent, and fucking retarded.

You have no idea how many kids a year kill themselves to Blink-182 - Adam's Song. ANY IDIOT that reads these lyrics can tell it's an ANTI suicide song.

Music is not what pushes these kids to the edge of insanity, it's just a crutch, a scape goat.

So music being "satanic" is NOT good a reason to not enjoy music. You listen to what you like the sound of, and you take in what you want tot ake in.

You're fighting so hard to stay away from this "satanic" music. It wouldn't be very hard to ignore it even if you were listening to it.

Look at all these fucking retarded rap artists, singing about being black, and "gangsta" They act like they're so proud to be "thugs" and it makes kids around the U.S. want to be like them.

These are the fucking retarded kids I've been tlaking about, that have no mind of their own and simply follow trends.

If you';re strong enough to completley block a band or an entire genre out, you're not a weak enough minded person to be taken over by "satanic" lyrics.


And again, in support to everyone that's already said it. Your mother is biast, what she tells you means nothing to us, if she told us in person tho, maybe it might. And your first reason for not liking music, "bad music is just music that is bad or not good" is completley subjective.

You've still yet to give us a good reason that makes somehting bad.
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Post by Nurd » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:53 pm

RamonesFan2020204 wrote:But she's right about Manson and NIN.
One line, no reasoning, no facts to back this up.

Now I'm sure of it, you are a troll, and I, for one, have fed you for entirely too long.

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Post by milatchi » Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:59 pm

I am in accoradnce with many of you on the MTV pop punk cancer that has infested america. It makes MTV the Demi-God of girls 12-16 and of homosexual boys of all ages. As for the 80's hairband rock.
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I'll tell you I am a big NIN fan. Their was a time when I didn't like NIN (I remember my first cd was Hootie & The Blowfish. Which I will never admit publicly!) Then I bought "THE FRAGILE" by NIN and it was great. Many of NIN's songs in general have something to do with sex or religon and they make you realize that their are others out there who question things about life, religon, and emotion. I also like the way NIN uses the continuation of ideas through many of their albums like: broken & fixed, the downward spiral & further down the spiral, THE FRAGILE & things falling apart. the songs on the albums pertain to these concepts by continuing on the ideas of their predecessor's.
As for NIN's music it is very layered. Their is instrumentation in the background that you often don't hear the first time. Then their is what I have dubbed the "precho" ("pre-echo") that is found in many NIN songs it is the lyrics or a piece of the music occuring before it actually occurs, not an introduction or a lead in like an echo but occuring before instead of after.

TOOL- I have never been a big TOOL fan, I still don't like their videos (WTF). I use to see their videos once in a blue moon on that channel that use to show music, what was it called? "MT..something. Anyway, I like many others thought TOOL was just a weird screaming Devil band but then I listened to some of their stuff and yeah some of it's deep, very deep: "Ænema", "Eulogy", "Stinkfist" (get it, deep :)) but some of it is irrelevant, humorous, and has no real meaning: "Hooker with a Penis", "Prison Sex" . So that makes TOOL good: they can go from being emotionally deep to meaning less rants. As for their music they have some very catchy guitar riffs.
One bad thing about TOOL is everyone I know who starts listening to them gets rid of all their other music and only listens to TOOL and always converses about how "TOOL are the greatest band ever" and any other music is "not as good as TOOL" but oh well.
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Post by Jace Tsunami » Sun Aug 17, 2003 1:04 pm

Ramones Fan, I uploaded this mp3 to my server JUST for you to hear.

This is a very hardcore punk band, but no matter how much they scream you can't tell me they're "satanic"

This band has officialy been labeled christian rock by countless record labels and music critiques. No matter how much they scream it won't change the fact that their lyrics are clean and spiritual.

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