Vids multiple on local

Warpwind · Post by **Warpwind** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:42 am

Now I know the org doesn't allow for re-uploading of vids on the local... and let me just say I don't have something I want to re-upload this is just a general question.

I've noticed some people do a revision of their vid and then enter it as a new vid in the database and upload it. So there profile has the same vid multiple times with just minor changes. Now this can't be good it takes up server space etc... Now I'm not suggesting that Phade make it so we can alter our uploaded vids I know that would lead to problems with excessively violent or pornagraphic vids getting replaced every time they were removed or something like that.

My question is if I see this how should I tell the person to change it? Tell them to email phade and get him to delete the earlier file? Wouldn't this make much more work for phade?

TokyoU15 · Post by **TokyoU15** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 2:08 am

funny how you should bring this up, I really want to re-edit one of my videos that is on the Local downloads, but I'm not doing it simply for the fact that I can not replace the current ont. I dont' want to bother Phade with my bullshit and I should have thought about it before I uploaded the video, but it would be nice to see a solution for this.

But for the most part, the creators should be 100% sure that's the final video.

Org Profile · Post by **Phade** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:02 am

Hey,

Just as a recap as to why re-uploads are not generally allowed:

A music video should not be released to the public until the video is 100% complete.

Releasing a video before it is done is not doing you or the viewing audience any favors; it just make you look like you fumble around and just can't get it right.

There are two "I'm not really an idot" exceptions to this:

1. Remastering - remastering is where, for example, you take a vid that you did origionally with VHS source and recreate it exactly with DVD source. The final output video will look the same content-wise, but will look much better visual-quality-wise. There should not be a new catalog entry for a remastered video. Replacing an existing local file with a remastered one is fine, but is currently a pain in the butt for me (soon to be fixed).

2. Remixing - remixing is where you take the same essence and theme of the video (usually by sticking with the same anime and using the same or a remix version of the same song) and create a new video. The new video may look very similar to the origional, but is in fact a different video because of different content. Since this is actually a new video, there should be a new catalog entry for it. But if you "remix" too frequently, you run the risk of getting the "idiot" label anyway

So, I hope that clears some of it up for you. Good luck and have fun!! ^_^

Phade.

SephirothJenova · Post by **SephirothJenova** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:17 am

Okay, if remastering has to do with just video quality, then what about things like <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 19">Trigun - Eden</a> & <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 69">Trigun - Eden *Remastered*</a> (Both by Hakura), <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 90">Closer To God</a> & <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 98">Closer To God 2: Even Closer</a> (Both by ErMaC), and <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... ">Brothers In Arms</a> & <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... ">Brothers In Arms: Severed Ties (BAM Version)</a> (Both by Pie Row Maniac)? Those are basically all different videos, but they aren't remixes at all. They all have them listed as different videos, so they wouldn't be able to upload the different videos? They are different videos not different versions.

Sephiroth

Org Profile · Post by **Phade** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:27 am

Hey,

How would you categorize them? Are they just different videos with similar names?

Phade.

SephirothJenova · Post by **SephirothJenova** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 9:12 am

Well, you can't really categorize them. Each video is different, although I have seen some videos labeled as remastered when all the creator did was change one stupid clip. Closer To God and Closer To God 2: Even Closer are dramatically different videos, but I would never call the second a remix of the other, because the second one changes around 60 - 70% of the original.

You can't totally stop the Donut to be abused, because new creators and members will always screw up and do something wrong.

Sephiroth

Warpwind · Post by **Warpwind** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 10:07 am

Sometimes people get opinions and decide to change their vids in response to them. That's mostly what I've seen anyway... still I agree with you the org is more like a library than anything else and you certainly don't see half-written/revised books in libraries.

but still if I see this what should I do?
Dob them in?
Tell them what they've done is wrong and that they should try and fix it?
Ignore it and go hide in a cupboard?

ErMaC · Post by **ErMaC** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 12:48 pm

You'll notice that the first Closer is not on my site anymore, nor is it on the donut, so the point is rather moot.

But I would consider Closer 2 a "remix" under the definitions Phade made.

post-it · Post by **post-it** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:22 pm

I would have to agree with both ErMaC and Phade - but for a different reason:

when an AMV is released to the public, you are saying "THAT's MY BEST"
. but to change it, to me, means:
"you can be bought - as if peer pressure was your inspiration"

my first AMV is horrable ( I like it - in a demented way ^^;;; )
. but its my best at this time . . which means I can only get better ^_^
. . and, after all, isn't that what this org is here for; to become THE BEST ^^

. I may never be an ErMaC or Mex Jr, but that doesn't mean - I've failed 8)

Phade . . how do i erase my first Video `off of the server?
( link, page and all ? )
. I recieved a lot of great advise on timing things and "how-to's" from many-many people . . including why I could not get things to line-up while encoding things ^^
. I'd like to try a different Series and Sound-Traxx this time.

THx

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:51 pm

My opinion on this, Post-It, is that you should be stuck with the version you put up. Even if you feel improvements can and should be made, the Donut was not made for beta-testing your videos, and replacing a file on the donut with a newer version should only be made in the most extreme of circumstances (such as corruption in the file after upload).

Phade, and whomever else want to, can throw orange rinds at me if they disagree...