!HOT! Christian Bible burning action OMG!

Kegger007 · Post by **Kegger007** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 8:48 pm

Just a bit

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:03 pm

Propyro wrote:wow ... ya know that slipknot song ... "people = shit" ... it has a whole new meaning (again) ...

Well, that just killed your post.

Hint: Slipknot sucks.

Tab. · Post by **Tab.** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:06 pm

Propyro wrote:all the worlds major religions are basicaly the exact fucking same thing ... only the fine print (which people obsess over) is different ... who gives a flying fuck what you belive if you belive in anything.

Have you done in depth research on every major religion?

Anyway, I'm inclined to agree.. all religions share an origin, and world religion of every kind is corrupt. But some are older and more true to the source than others.

Kegger007 · Post by **Kegger007** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:15 pm

*Thumbs up*

OmniStrata · Post by **OmniStrata** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 12:19 am

Tab. wrote:
OmniStrata wrote:I for one must be hallucinating. I was in two near death situations and both times I saw the same angel...
Yeah, and I must have been hallucinating the time I had a dream that my girlfriend was cheating on me, and a few days later found out that she was. Or the time I dreamt that she confessed to me that she had been cheating before, and the next day I found out that she had cheated on me a year ago. Or the time I dreamt about her wanting to get back together after we broke up, and then it happened. freud dosen't quite account for the timing on that, because I never dream about her.
Point, TONs of people have experiences that can not be explained by blind phenomenalism or current science. This is where vastly different and strange religious beliefs usually fill in the gaps.

I, for one, know of a superset to ancient Hinduism that accounts for things like out of body/near death experiences and other occult qualities. I choose to follow this set of beliefs. Why? Because it makes the most sense. More sense than hard science, because hard science is still pretty damn limited in explaining things like what we experienced.

The fact that I have more than one real life friends (yes I do have RL friends ~_~) who claim to have induced OBE's themselves and even communicated things while out of body only adds to that. People are quick to call stuff like that ridiculous or crazy while they go to church and worship an omnipotent being who created everything and loves all people, or go subscribe to blind science and it's half assed story of existance.

Now, based on what I've researched about topics like OBE/NDE, let me tell you this. The fact that you saw angels dosen't necessarily mean they had to be the same angels christianity teaches. Metaphysical realms are COMPLETELY subjective. They're a painting board for your mind. If you're christian, you're going to expect to see an angel, you're going to see it. Or say you see some high level being, whatever it may be, of course you're going to interpret it as god or an angel. Learn to OBE, go find the angel, ask him if he loves the pope and church. See what he says. I'll be interested to know as well, so come back with the answer.

The Uncaused Cause is generally referred to as God; if you choose to believe that explanation.
This is called copping out because you can't come up with a better explanation. Here comes anthropomorphic god to fill in all the gaps and answer all the questions. HELLO ACTUAL THINKING.

Whether actual worship of God is reasonable is something else entirely unrelated to whether or not He exists.
Interesting, agreed.

Again, I'm seeing a huge bias in this thread. It's not phenomenalism/science + atheism vs religion/spiritualism, it's atheism vs christianity/judaism. You're all speaking of god in terms of the anthropomorphic semitic definition.

Disclaimer: I do not mean to offend with my arrogant attitude. If I do, sorry I've just done a lot of research and thinking on this crap and hold my opinions in relatively high reguard.

Neeeaaat... ^_^

Still, there are things that exist that can't be explained. Why? Cause there are many things that exist that CAN be explained...

So, what do we use to "prove" that which can't be explained? ["coincidence is God's way of staying anonymous"] I'm not too serious about my religion and am somewhat ashamed at that Catholicism is one of the only religions to "attack" others...

Still, my angels have a sexy voice...

By putting aside "fact or fiction" arguments. Don't you find some of the writings of relgious myth/text quite intriguing?

Samson and Delilah
Moses
Hercules
Odysseyus...

Relgious "legends" for me make an EXCELLENT form of fiction that for some reason never bores me... ^_^

Tab. · Post by **Tab.** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 12:25 am

The sad thing is, there's real symbolism in most of those stories, that's completely lost without the esoteric interpretations.

Propyro · Post by **Propyro** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:10 am

Tab. wrote:
Propyro wrote:all the worlds major religions are basicaly the exact fucking same thing ... only the fine print (which people obsess over) is different ... who gives a flying fuck what you belive if you belive in anything.
Have you done in depth research on every major religion?
Anyway, I'm inclined to agree.. all religions share an origin, and world religion of every kind is corrupt. But some are older and more true to the source than others.

In depth ... no ... i have grade 11 world religions under my blet ... what i gathered from that class is that the major world religions are pretty much the same. ANd yes, i do relise that theres a big age difference between many of them ... but still ... if you boil it down the fundamental messages are all pretty close to one another.

I wouldn't go as far to say that religions are corupt ... more the people corrupt the religions. From what i gathered in grade 11, there is no room for the bull shit that goes on today that is jsutified by religious texts, in the actual religious texts. BUt people go and say that they are allowed/jusitfied/have a right to do what ever the fuck stupidity they're doing ... meh ...

kthulhu wrote:Well, that just killed your post.

Hint: Slipknot sucks.

well thats one mans opinion ... [size=0]yea they're not the greatest band in the world ... but i still like them[/size]

/fin

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:59 am

Propyro - SPIT! It out.

Savia · Post by **Savia** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:38 am

Tab. wrote:Christianity on the other hand denounces anything that isn't covered in it's official doctrine as works of the devil.

To clarify, the larger Christian traditions (churches and hierarchies) do that

Some of us are more free-thinking than others.

Kegger007 · Post by **Kegger007** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 10:06 am

Savia wrote:
Tab. wrote:Christianity on the other hand denounces anything that isn't covered in it's official doctrine as works of the devil.
To clarify, the larger Christian traditions (churches and hierarchies) do that Some of us are more free-thinking than others.

Just something to add to this, in addition to the fact that there are diocese of the church of over the place, each of these has it's own Bishop, which acts like an independent entity. So in some places you do get the somewhat fanatical devotion, and in others it is more rational. I also tend to see some of the more vehement groups of the church found in Protestantism, but there are certain groups within the Catholic faith as well. But since section is separate, there can be some moderation, rather than the tendency towards extreme faith.

Peace!