sad news for metal fans

TokyoU15 · Post by **TokyoU15** » Fri Aug 01, 2003 8:14 pm

My biggest problem with Tim is that he brings in too much of a Judas Priest vibe with the vocals...I was never a big JP fan.

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 11:17 pm

TokyoU15 wrote:Man...I miss Barlow...BIG TIME. Tim Owens is just too fucking powermetal. It doesn't really fit Iced Earth.

Oh but WHY? Iced Earth IS power metal! </sarcasm directed at a specific iced earth fan>

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 11:19 pm

Dark power metal, jerk.

TokyoU15 · Post by **TokyoU15** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 11:24 pm

Oh but WHY? Iced Earth IS power metal! </sarcasm directed at a specific iced earth fan>

Iced Earth isn't power metal...it's progressive. There's a slight difference. Stop talking out of your ass.

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 11:58 pm

No, it's not progressive. Take the guitars for instance. The solos are generally pretty good, but the riffs are clearly power driven. He uses the same chords over and over (I love Schaffer by the way) and there isn't even an ounce of shredding on any of their CDs.

The vocals... you can't define as either power or progressive, but the lyrics are much more similar to power metal than they are to progressive.

The drums, while generally fast and powerful, aren't nearly as technical as most prog bands.

And for your information, Nailz thinks they are prog metal too. So your comment was quite undeserved.

And they aren't prog.

TokyoU15 · Post by **TokyoU15** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 1:17 am

The vocals... you can't define as either power or progressive, but the lyrics are much more similar to power metal than they are to progressive.

Barlow is much more Prog. than he was power. He mixed it up quite a bit, but overall, progressive.

Overall, you bring up good points, but Iced Earth really does mix it up very well between progressive and power...fuck, just listen to Dante's Inferno...vocally and musically, this is progressive at it's best! Some of the new stuff from Glorious Burden (the reckoning) is pretty technical.

Iced Earth is very diverse and I can see where you're coming from, but I wouldn't call them Power Metal and leave it at that. They are pretty progressive as well. But who cares? All that matterts is that they fuckin' rule.

MetalWolf · Post by **MetalWolf** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 12:07 pm

TokyoU15 wrote:
The vocals... you can't define as either power or progressive, but the lyrics are much more similar to power metal than they are to progressive.
Barlow is much more Prog. than he was power. He mixed it up quite a bit, but overall, progressive.

Overall, you bring up good points, but Iced Earth really does mix it up very well between progressive and power...fuck, just listen to Dante's Inferno...vocally and musically, this is progressive at it's best! Some of the new stuff from Glorious Burden (the reckoning) is pretty technical.

Iced Earth is very diverse and I can see where you're coming from, but I wouldn't call them Power Metal and leave it at that. They are pretty progressive as well. But who cares? All that matterts is that they fuckin' rule. :lol:

I agree

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 1:59 pm

TokyoU15 wrote:But who cares? All that matterts is that they fuckin' rule.

Throw an insult, and then when proven wrong, don't bother standing up for your original comment, but back right the fuck off. What a pussy you are.

Iced Earth sucks. Most, if not all, Prog Bands suck though.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 2:08 pm

nailz1000 wrote:Iced Earth sucks. Most, if not all, Prog Bands suck though.

ow!

Mayhaps too harsh a statement?

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 2:19 pm

Perhaps. If you can prove i'm wrong, I'm all for it. I hate Iced Earth, I hate Dream Theater, I hate SX (unless live) .. so ..