AMV rants, and complaints [is now a music vs. music thread]

Dead_Pool · Post by **Dead_Pool** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:17 pm

Now he doesn't ask where music types originated from and to keep this topic in focus, and forgoing the history lesson in music which on average most people enjoy music know all about it. He wanted to know why more Rap isn't used to make AMV's, for one like is said in my previous post is that rap isn't very personal in nature, while Rock/Alt is more personal in nature due to the stlye the lyrics are written in(like a poem)

FirestormXIII · Post by **FirestormXIII** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:52 pm

Sad to see this turn into another 'Rap sucks', 'No it doesn't' thread, but I'll throw in my hat briefly.

I don't think the problem is that one genre is varied and another isn't (or something along those lines). I believe the problem is that people either don't see, or choose not to see, that rap/hip-hop is varied. I mean, Dead_Pool's first comment into this thread shows the narrow-minded viewpoint that most people have of rap/hip-hop being all about drugs, money, women, and killing people.
Sure, that side exists, but it would be like saying rock only deals with drugs, satanism, angst, and suicide. Those topics exist in rock/punk/metal/death metal/etc, but almost everyone knows that it's not the totality of what rock/etc. is.

Both genres have a lighter side, and a serious side. It's the nature of music, because it's the nature of people. People simply need to realize the similarities, and stop bashing the differences.

It's fine not to like a certain type of music, but you shouldn't pigeon-hole and bash it just because it's not what you like. (Kind of like the whole DBZ/LP deal)

Ok, I'm done.

FirestormXIII · Post by **FirestormXIII** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:01 pm

Wait, I lied. I forgot to mention the reasons that I think most people probably don't use rap/hip-hop in AMVs:

1)Dislike of the genre. People tend to use music in AMVs that they like, it's just the way it is.

2)Rap/Hip-hop tells a story more often than not, but sometimes it can be hard to create a concept from it and follow it; unlike rock where it's typically easier to follow (not saying that's an absolute, but just look at Linkin Park).

3)People simply don't realize that there's something beyond the cash, killing, hoes philosophy that drives much of the rap/hip-hop that's heard on the radio, MTV, and BET.

Ok, now I'm done.
Really.

Dannywilson · Post by **Dannywilson** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:09 pm

But where does nerdcore rock and rap fit in to all of this? (You'll all find out quite soon)

Dead_Pool · Post by **Dead_Pool** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:15 pm

I am far from narrow minded and am a pretty big fan of Rap, typically the older form but a fan none the less, I have even used a song for an AMV, but the way Rap flows and is listened to is very hard and near impossible to make to an AMV, and alot of rap today isn't geared towards anime at all. And can alot of you tell me with all honesty that that you relate more to the guns drugs and booze and money slapping your hoes, than say love, hate, depression to generalize of Rock/alt/soul/dance.

Rap alot of the times relates to = pimping ones self

Rock/Alt/dance/tecno = tells a story, how you are feeling, easier to relate to

Rock/Alt/dance/tecno = easier to translate into an AMV

Shun · Post by **Shun** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:52 pm

Although i am not a fan of rap, if i thought that a rap song would fit well with an anime(which i have never done) i would consider making it just like any other vid. If the glove fits wear it, it just always seems that the rap glove is to small or to big

god i rock at those analogy thingamagigys

Nappy · Post by **Nappy** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 3:43 pm

Most ppl here just don't like rap that much, so they don't use it. It's the same with R&B, country, jazz, new age, opera, etc.

Kai Stromler · Post by **Kai Stromler** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 3:50 pm

damn, I forgot something relevant higher up.

Dead_Pool wrote:For one thing they are always rapping about there self, drinking 40's on the curb while smoking weed, and smaking there bitches out, alot of that doesn't translate well into an AMV.

who the hell says???

I could technically post this one on the Donut if there's enough interest....there's no sexual nudity, just no semblance of taste. Those who want me to brave the wrath of the donut mods notify via mail, followup post, pm, etc.

--K

Dead_Pool · Post by **Dead_Pool** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 4:35 pm

Ok one anyothers

Dead_Pool · Post by **Dead_Pool** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 4:50 pm

Maybe I should say that Rock etc etc.... translate into AMV's easier because of the characters rainbow of emotions reflect more of rocks songs and there content then, to rap songs and there content most of the times.