HELP: Music Videos

whohasamonkey · Post by **whohasamonkey** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:05 pm

if i have alot of music videos, but i created none of them does that mean it would be wrong for me to post them?? what if i mention i didn't create it??

Warpwind · Post by **Warpwind** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:20 pm

Short Answer: YES it would be wrong to upload them in your account

Long Answer:
If you want to link to the creators own page in the org or even their own website from the forums that's okay.

It is wrong for you to upload the files as part of your org account, even if you credit the creator. This is because the creator hasn't given his/her consent for you to do so and because it's easier for people to mistake it as your own even with a disclaimer.

If the creator is not a member of the org and you want the video up for everyone to access then you can email Phade about uploading it to the "Proxy" account. That way it the creator ever comes to the org it's easy for him/her to get the vid transferred to their account. But in all honesty these vids better be pretty good to do that.

koronoru · Post by **koronoru** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:23 pm

I thought the original poster was asking about posting the videos on the Web, rather than on the org. I think it's okay for him to post them on the Web, but I'm not sure everyone would agree, and I think it would be better if he tracked down the creators and asked them individually for permission.

Warpwind · Post by **Warpwind** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:34 pm

koronoru wrote:I thought the original poster was asking about posting the videos on the Web, rather than on the org. I think it's okay for him to post them on the Web, but I'm not sure everyone would agree, and I think it would be better if he tracked down the creators and asked them individually for permission.

Well if that what was meant... I still think it's wrong to post them on the web without the creators permission.

Admittedly amv's are a grey area in copywright laws but amv's are still the intellecual (yes my spelling is this bad) property of the creators to do with as they will unless it infringes on the copywright of the anime series used in the clip.

At least that's my current understanding of the issue

koronoru · Post by **koronoru** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 11:15 am

Warpwind wrote:[Admittedly amv's are a grey area in copywright laws but amv's are still the intellecual (yes my spelling is this bad) property of the creators to do with as they will unless it infringes on the copywright of the anime series used in the clip.

Distributing it at all is pretty clearly a copyright infringement; legally about all the creator can do is watch it on their own machine and *maybe* show it to a few close friends (not give out copies of it).

That actually liberates this discussion a little bit, because it means we don't have to figure out the intricacies of the legal issues: it's all illegal. The more interesting question is the moral one: thinking just in terms of what's right and wrong, is it okay (not legal, but acceptable by our own standards) for people to pass around AMVs?

For my part, I encourage people to copy and share unmodified copies of the AMVs I've made. I'd be happy to have someone post them on the Web or whatever. Telling me about it would be nice but it wouldn't be necessary to ask for permission first. The videos already contain as much credit or attribution as I want. I'd be disappointed if one was publically shown e.g. at a convention without my being told about it, if modified versions were being shared and represented as my work, the credits were removed, or if someone tried to sell them.

whohasamonkey · Post by **whohasamonkey** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 11:26 am

my thoughts on the matter always was, if you make an AMV then you want others to see your videos. No one makes a video and shows it to no one. The issue was never really about copyrights. I have yet to see an AMV that at the end says "copyright" or "patent". But like mentioned earlier, it is a moral issue, but a legal one.....no, sorry.