Master Archive Fundraising

Quu · Post by **Quu** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:51 am

danielwang wrote:$1772?!?!?!

You can obtain pre-owned EMC Celerra Enterprise Storage for considerably less than that pricepoint. Use Iosmegabyte (pr: Zippy Disk) NAS/SAN storage and it's even cheaper. Better yet, those hot swappable drives fit in a briefcase.

It's so much cheaper when you don't have to buy the computer. A network appliance and a routing server will do for the most part, with Ethernutty (not optical) it's even easier.

the cheapest i have found a celerra used is $4k... and that is not fully equiped... you had to buy the fibre channel drives seperatly....

SAN equipment tends not to be as cost effective as my example solution... mainoly becasue with a SAN you are paying for a ocmputer... its an embeded computer... with an embeded OS... using customg management software that the company that developed the SAN either lisenced or developed them selves....

san's are convientient... and when compared to the TCO of a full server chaeper for a busness... but I am not a busness... for the storage this is a $1.38 per gig (or $1.58 if you count it after the raid-5 penalty) storage solution that will last with my current projections (rather agressive projectsion) for another 2-3 years possibly more

Quu · Post by **Quu** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:56 am

danielwang wrote:[has just donated monies]

Sound interesting. I'll go for it.

Just wondering, when do you think an (possible out of print) AMV will necessitate and qualify for restoration? Whthet it's someone who wants to see/use a classic AMV, to AMV exhibition, it will eventually happen.

Once it gets big enough after a few years... just think what could happen. The On-demand AMV Channel. Or not.

[thank you ^_^]

There is already "history of amv" style panels and blocks at convnetions.... Vlad has in his anime evolution convnetion done a block of older amvs... I spend ALOT of time tyring to restore older amvs... like i said before i bought a really nice vcr to extract the maximum qualiyt possible from tapes that i get... since alot of the oldr amvs are only availible on vhs tape....

its like a repository that i make availbiel to convnetions and other eepositories... I don't want to put this online for many reasons... the first of which is that the average file size of the amvs is 3-400 megs... i store these as 12-16 megabit per second mpeg-2... not really condusive to downloading.... Basically I am more than willing to dupe out tapes for people... since the equipment is built for that. Making DVDs are harder since I have to authoer and recompress... and sutible only for special ocations... The mian purpose is convnetions... when if i am given a block of time... i can fill it wiht what ever people want

All videos are in essence "restored" when inported into the archive...

Quu · Post by **Quu** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:04 pm

TaranT wrote:[SNUP ABOUT SERVER BEING INPLACE]

The "rules" are simple. Basically, people in the audience nominate videos to be in the contest. A video is nominated by the immediate, on-the-spot donation of $5, $10, etc. to the VJ, along with the name of the video. A pledge might be acceptable, too. And perhaps the nominator should have a tape/CD/DVD in case the video is not in place already. A minimum donation amount will help to regulate the number of videos that get played (and limit the amount of time that is needed).

[SNIP ABOUT JUDGING AND PRIZES]

This looks like it should be easy to do. If I understand how the VAT works, you're probably doing this already, except for the part about collecting money. The hard part would be getting a good time slot.

The downside is that it doesn't help get the server built before AWA.

one thing that is dangerous is showing a video that is not pre screened at an event. Most convnetions don't allow that... becasue who si to say as a prank soemone won't bring you a video that has a scene of goats.cx in the middle of it... or somethign else. You may say that is not likely to happen... but I did have one person who wanted his video to be shown at at the vat... he even gave me the cd with the file... and when i told him that no videos which had not been pre screened were allowed he got upset and left... when i later viewed the video file... it started fluffy... then showed the most raunchy hentai that i have ever seen... thsi was during "day time" when there is a high possabiliyt of children in the audiance.....

the time slot is not the big deal... its accepting money for a non convnetion event outside of the proscribed locations... basically money changes hands at the dealers room and artists alley...otherwise it has to be the cons money... becasue I am then using the convnetions facilities... it can be done... I am not saying that a con would say no... its just that things would be more difficult...

now setting up an artists alley table would be the best solution... with a one hour block of time in a video room sunday or late saturday.... my server is portable... so peopel can stop by the table during the convnetion... donate to get videos nominated... you can also pre screen there... then at the hour (two hour) event in the video room everything is already planned out....

the problem... I don't have enuf contacts at otakont o pull that off... and awq is booked solid for time so there wouls be no time to have the shwoing

Ashyukun · Post by **Ashyukun** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:19 pm

This reminds me something of the fundraisers we used to do for the Band in college- a Change Drive. Each of the sections (High Winds, Percussion, Low Winds, etc.) would have a jar, and people put change in the jars. Pennies were positive points, anything else (cash included) was negative points with 1 cent = 1 point. Invariably, it came down to who had the least negative score. On several occasions we raised over $1k doing this.

I think it could be fun to adapt this to a charity AMV contest... have a table set out (likely in the Artist's Alley or the Dealer's Room, from the sound of it) with jars and the names of the AMVs in the 'contest'. Have the videos on loop-play at the table and have a showing of them at some other point, and then people can put their change into the jars as they see fit. If you want to help things along, bring an assload of pennies to exchange for people as well.

Given the nature of it, you'd likely want to have people volunteer AMVs to compete in it- some people would likely be offended by people voting against their videos (as would most likely be what would happen, as pennies are less common than larger denomination coins), and the whole thing should be done with a good amount of humor. Have the 'prize' be something suitably cheesy as well, like a trophy made from a smoked video card or the likes.

Not the world's best idea, but I think it would be a lot of fun...

BogoSort · Post by **BogoSort** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:57 pm

Penny Wars for amvs would be awesome! We do it in college all the time, and we manage to raise a fair bit of money. Get some amusing amvs showing, and have a table that plays them on loop, and it could work out to be a lot of fun for all involved.

Though one thing to be warned about. Getting the pennies into a usable form is very annoying. We had long sessions of penny wrapping, and attempting to deposit hundreds of dollars of pennies into a bank. Most banks don't want that many pennies.

Quu · Post by **Quu** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:07 pm

the bigest problem i see with penny wqrs... is havint to listen to the same amv ... again and again....

and putting amvs right next to each other... as they woudl interfear with each other... and the equipment needed to play 5-6 videos at once... side by side....

Dannywilson · Post by **Dannywilson** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:24 pm

That would be the thing then. How big is the VAT room this year Quu? If its as large or larger than the one last year, you could have 4-5 computers set up at different corners of the room or outside the doors during normal VAT play hours. You could also have a special 1 hour event or something of that nature as a tribute to the dedicated B-ko.

Just my $0.02 (pun intended.)

Quu · Post by **Quu** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:32 pm

if i had 4 or five computers which were amv quality to set this up... i would not need the fund raiser =^_^=

and all hours of the VAT are packed... hell my panel is 8AM on saturday morning... there is no unused time in the VAT

TaranT · Post by **TaranT** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:00 pm

After I posted that last I had the idea of running the fundraiser during Iron Chef. Don't know if that would work, but it might solve the time slot issue.

As for the convention rules about money changing hands...I suppose it could be a pledge drive. That way no money is involved at the time of the contest/exhibition/whatever.

Just some more thoughts...

Ashyukun · Post by **Ashyukun** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 9:58 am

Quu wrote:if i had 4 or five computers which were amv quality to set this up... i would not need the fund raiser =^_^=

I was more thinking of just having them playing in a loop on a tape or something, not necessarily all playing at once...