What do you think of this? (Guantanamo becomes a death camp)

Simpi · Post by **Simpi** » Wed May 28, 2003 8:12 am

If this is true, it certainly won't improve US image abroad. What do you think?

http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/c ... 40100.html

US plans a death camp

THE US has floated plans to turn Guantanamo Bay into a death camp, with its own death row and execution chamber.

Prisoners would be tried, convicted and executed without leaving its boundaries, without a jury and without right of appeal, The Mail on Sunday newspaper reported yesterday.

The plans were revealed by Major-General Geoffrey Miller, who is in charge of 680 suspects from 43 countries, including two Australians.

The suspects have been held at Camp Delta on Cuba without charge for 18 months.

General Miller said building a death row was one plan. Another was to have a permanent jail, with possibly an execution chamber.

The Mail on Sunday reported the move is seen as logical by the US, which has been attacked worldwide for breaching the Geneva Convention on prisoners of war since it established the camp at a naval base to hold alleged terrorists from Afghanistan.

But it has horrified human rights groups and lawyers representing detainees.

They see it as the clearest indication America has no intention of falling in line with internationally recognised justice.

The US has already said detainees would be tried by tribunals, without juries or appeals to a higher court. Detainees will be allowed only US lawyers.

British activist Stephen Jakobi, of Fair Trials Abroad, said: "The US is kicking and screaming against any pressure to conform with British or any other kind of international justice."

American law professor Jonathan Turley, who has led US civil rights group protests against the military tribunals planned to hear cases at Guantanamo Bay, said: "It is not surprising the authorities are building a death row because they have said they plan to try capital cases before these tribunals.

"This camp was created to execute people. The administration has no interest in long-term prison sentences for people it regards as hard-core terrorists."

Britain admitted it had been kept in the dark about the plans.

A Downing St spokesman said: "The US Government is well aware of the British Government's position on the death penalty."

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Wed May 28, 2003 11:17 am

It's about time...

Veldrin · Post by **Veldrin** » Wed May 28, 2003 11:26 am

Hey, what ever you have to do to get rid of the people you don't like...

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Wed May 28, 2003 4:15 pm

Eh, whatever. I hate to say it, but I'm not terribly concerned. Transporting people from Afghanistan to Cuba can't be cheap - there are probably some good reasons they're locked up. At least I hope so

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Vote someone other than Bush in 2004!

yuppa · Post by **yuppa** » Wed May 28, 2003 4:30 pm

Well to be blunt, the terrorist have been training to die their whole lives,so why not kill them you may ask? Because it is wrong to. No matter what they have done or will do. Only The man upstairs has the right to do that.But when they will try to kill innocent people,even though no one has the right to kill another person it may be necessary to kill them to protect the Innocent people outside. It's a case of Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.

Keaton · Post by **Keaton** » Wed May 28, 2003 11:29 pm

they might deseve to die, but as that old saying goes, "two wrongs don't make a right"

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Wed May 28, 2003 11:37 pm

no surprise.
The government has been doing it for a long time now already.

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SS5_Majin_Bebi · Post by **SS5_Majin_Bebi** » Thu May 29, 2003 12:50 am

More evidence that Bush is as bad as Saddam, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin etc etc etc were.

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Thu May 29, 2003 12:53 am

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:More evidence that Bush is as bad as Saddam, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin etc etc etc were.

Bush is bad, no doubt, but c'mon, be fucking realistic. He's still nowhere near the level of bad that the people you mentioned are.

When he starts rounding up millions of people into concentration camps for systematic extermination, and whacks members of his staff for being "disloyal" or potential political enemies - then he's hit the big leagues.

Until then, he's just plain ol' bad.

Keaton · Post by **Keaton** » Thu May 29, 2003 12:54 am

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:More evidence that Bush is as bad as Saddam, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin etc etc etc were.

just like my poster on my wall, it has Bush and Hitler, and it says "same topic different asshole"