If the "eyes" went away...

[UncleMilo]

Even if they did make Hercules and Pocahontas.

Touche.

Actually... I'm one of the few people who liked Pocahontas (though it is near the bottom of my list of Disney animations I liked).

The only good thing about Hercules was James Woods. (And I did like Meg's character design).

However... I never denied that Disney was a household name...
Disney is known internationally.


I agree with you completely about the removal of the gargoyles in Hunchback

and speaking of Hunchback... they actually had a musical number about a man suffering from sexual anguish!

Disney has gotten away with a lot of mature themes in their "family" films... going back to what I said about treating their audience with respect rather than "dumbing down for the kids" as some companies do.

Anyway... not really going anywhere with this... so I'll stop here!

-Uncle Milo

[EarthCurrent]

Actually... I'm one of the few people who liked Pocahontas (though it is near the bottom of my list of Disney animations I liked).

Yeah, let's rewrite history and present to our children nice happy environmentally friendly indians who didn't exploit nature!

Everybody sing...

Really, I have a hard enough time dealing with history brainwashed children. I don't need Disney adding to my troubles.

Anywho, in Manga! Manga! written by Fred Schodt (who was Tezuka's english translator), Tezuka is noted to have adopted the large eyes from Disney after realizing that it allowed for more expression on his character's faces.

[skanks]

Even if they did make Hercules and Pocahontas.

Touche.

Actually... I'm one of the few people who liked Pocahontas (though it is near the bottom of my list of Disney animations I liked).

-Uncle Milo

I will stand by you there. That dog was CUTE!!!
I still like Beauty and the Beast, Loin King and Alidan aswell.

[Anlushac11]

8)

The way I heard it is that the big eyes are a way of paying tribute to Walt Disney's early efforts in Animation, since many credit Walt Disney as being the father of anime.

I dont remember who started it or which Walt Disney character(I thought it was the steamboat pilot character?) but it has kinda become a tradition that seems to be going away with time. It was very common on older anime but newer stuff doesnt seem to have as much of it. Not sure if its a good or bad thing.

I consider it one of the trademarks of Jap anime. Some like it some dont.

[UncleMilo]

Actually... I'm one of the few people who liked Pocahontas (though it is near the bottom of my list of Disney animations I liked).

Yeah, let's rewrite history and present to our children nice happy environmentally friendly indians who didn't exploit nature!

Everybody sing...

I agree with you - Pocahontas does for American History what Disney's Hercules did for Greek Mythology...

still... Pocahontas was aimed for kids... and movies like BRAVEHEART (which won and Oscar for best picture) was aimed at adults and it is a historical fiasco as well... I'm angrier at movies aimed at adults that take HUGE leaps of fact then children's movies that do so. Obviously, any historically based film is going to be modified for entertainment sake...
but a small change in Historical fact can be tolerated, but a GIANT disgrace (like suggesting William Wallace impregented the princess of England, when in fact the real princess was only 9 when the events of Braveheart took place) are just infuriating.
(and again... I will forgive the historical inaccuracies in a movie like Poccahontas... as huge as they are... because this film should never be viewed as "educational material" and parents who are concened about the truth can explain the situation to the kids... but I don't want to go on further with this or I'll be writing all night).

It's not Disney's job to teach history. Disney had made the decision (like it or not) to try to get the idea that hatred of other cultures is a bad idea... they just should have left it at that and not connected it to the names of real people... still... they did...
Since I know it's a Disney movie, I know to put aside the truth just so I can enjoy the film. (Just wondering... are you equally annoyed with books that are changed by Disney?)

Well... I have to stop here...

-Uncle Milo

[UncleMilo]

I will stand by you there. That dog was CUTE!!!
I still like Beauty and the Beast, Loin King and Alidan aswell.

Actually... my favorite Disney Animated films include

The Little Mermaid
Beauty and the Beast
Mulan
Lilo and Stitch
Fantasia
Sleeping Beauty

(In No Order)

-Uncle Milo

[skanks]

Its been so long since I seen sleeping beauty all I remember is she gets pricked.. Goes to sleep, some guy kisses her while she's asleep (isn't that some form of rape?) then she gets up. How did they make that into a feature length animation?

[Propyro]

i'm not going ot bother reading all of this thread because i only have so much time ...

Somone said Disney is narrow, yes and no. They do a lot of stuff over and over again ... but they make interesting adaptations of classical literature for children. Eg, Lion king 2, that was Romeo And Juilet. THe original Lion king was either McBeth or some other tradgic Shakespere play. Danm it there were some other ones my english teacher told me about, but i can't remember them at the moment.

[Hoeya]

I think your thinking of Richard III. It was very loosely based on it.

[AbsoluteDestiny]

.......


Lion King was Hamlet + Bambi (Bamlet?)