Grave of the Fireflies

Mroni · Post by **Mroni** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:01 am

kthulhu wrote:Just as a heads up, you HAVE to feel really sad and declare Grave Of The Fireflies to be one of the greatest works in the world after watching it, NO MATTER WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF IT, or else UncleMilo will "take a stand against your drone-like, hive-mind, brainwashed stupidity" and oh so OBVIOUS lack of falling into his line of thinking (which is a mortal sin!), and proceed to kick your ass (or get all emotional and crying, which is far more painful yet hilarious).

He'll also make insulting, elitist statements about how he is so much above the rest of us "intellectual trash", since he metaphorically holds the crystal of life in a Tiffany glass spoon or something.

Just so you know ^_^ .

Thanks for warning peeps kthulu. truer words have not been spoken.

Mr Oni

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 11:09 am

Mroni wrote:Skanks my freind the Japanese dragged america into a war it did not want by sneak attacking Pearl harbor.

I don't really wanna get into this THAT badly, but I'd like to comment on this "getting dragged in" thing. We were never dragged in, it is a well-known fact that Roosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor well before it happened. He LET it happen so that we would have an excuse to go to war.

Why else was the ENTIRE carrier fleet doing "maneuvers" in Africa? Kind of seems suspicious doesn't it? I won't go into any further details, but this is a fairly well-accepted fact that he at least had information about the possibility. Now of course I am appalled that so many lives were lost just so Congress would "OK" a war, but I guess I sort of see why...I'm not the President.

I guess what I'm gettting at is that I hate hearing people talk about it like we were ignorant to all this. Do you honestly think our government is that ignorant?

Oh and I love GotF and I konw you don't mean to be, but Mr.Oni your comments do come across as slightly racist. I think that GotF may be about a Japanese boy and girl, but at the same time it could be any war. The movie is about the victims of war. In this case, innocent victims who should not have to deal with the struggles presented to them. I don't at all think it was an anti-American movie. If I had not known better, I would've seen the "enemy" as just a faceless enemy that could represent any invading country. IIRC there is only one scene where there is anything with a US symbol (the firebombings). 99% of the movie doesn't mention or show them...it just shows the suffering of war. That's my two cents.

Oh and I *really* don't wanna get into a Roosevelt conspiracy argument. I did that in High School and am fairly convinced. I just thought it might help dissolve some of the assumptions about the war.

Mroni · Post by **Mroni** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:13 pm

Ok I will not argue it with you I will make a statement

The navy knew pearl harbor was vulnerable for attack before but it did nothing because it didn't really expect it to happen. The reason the planes were parked so close together was a last minute decision to advoid sabotage by japanese in Hawaii. I don't buy into roosevelt letting it happen but that story has been around since day and it's not going anywhere 1. My freinds Grandfather is convinced you will find a british toropedo in the hull of the lusitania. Oh and the reason the carriers were out manuvering is that they were brand new and were working out the bugs with using the planes. But oh yeah I'm not arguing and the japanese attacked it anyway I don't think roosevelt told them to do that.

Mr Oni

Mroni · Post by **Mroni** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:14 pm

I don't see the racist part in any of my comments at all I'm confused by that one.

Mr Oni

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:21 pm

Mroni wrote:Ok I will not argue it with you I will make a statement The navy knew pearl harbor was vulnerable for attack before but it did nothing because it didn't really expect it to happen. The reason the planes were parked so close together was a last minute decision to advoid sabotage by japanese in Hawaii. I don't buy into roosevelt letting it happen but that story has been around since day and it's not going anywhere 1. My freinds Grandfather is convinced you will find a british toropedo in the hull of the lusitania. Oh and the reason the carriers were out manuvering is that they were brand new and were working out the bugs with using the planes. But oh yeah I'm not arguing and the japanese attacked it anyway I don't think roosevelt told them to do that.

Well regardless, I respect your opinion. BTW I don't mean it in the context of Roosevelt like called them up and told them to do it. I am just saying that I believe he knew before the actual event and could've minimized (if not stopped) the massacre. Please don't get me wrong here, I do not AT ALL want to seem like I don't find the event apalling. Regardless of if anyone knew of theirs plans or not, the Japanese still made the decision to attack and kill thousands of Americans. This is of course warrants action. I just mean to bring up the "conspiracy" and somewhat rebutt the "forced" and "dragged" into the war sentiment.

Also, it is known that we wanted to go into the East since Japan was pretty much conquering all of Asia (Korea, China, etc.). I'm sure you agree that the President didn't like this at all and did want to go to war to prevent it (to which I am thankful for since I am Korean).

MrOni wrote:I don't see the racist part in any of my comments at all I'm confused by that one.

I guess racist is a bit harsh. What I was inferring is that your comments are harsh. Basically you talk about the starvation of two children in a playful manner and it's a bit insensitive. Now of course, you don't say anything like "since they are japanese they deserve it or whatever," but it doesn't come across very well...I apologize for the harsh retort...

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 7:07 pm

skanks wrote:Damn kthulhu, i thought you were kidding.
UncleMilo is pycho.

BOOM! Like clockwork, another overly-emotional post from UncleMilo.

UncleMilo wrote:You know... I am very glad to read that this is the best insult you can come up with.

It wasn't an insult, it was a warning. A lot of new people aren't used to your elitist bullshit.

UncleMilo wrote:God damn that Uncle Milo for knowing things!!

Screw him because he has knowledge!

I have no problem with your intelligence. I know you're quite smart, and have a lot of good things to say. It's the way you disseminate it most of the time, however, that annoys the hell out of me. "Here's UncleMilo on his handmade ivory towers, tossing out knowledge pudding to the ignorant, bestial trash on the bottom. Maybe one of them will eat it and get a little closer to UncleMilo's brainy superman vision".

UncleMilo wrote:Fuck Uncle Milo because he gets upset when dumbshits go around making racist, egocentric and hatefilled remarks!

Don't like it (and I don't blame you that you don't)? Take it one on one with that poster. Trying to "educate" everyone here just makes you a target or a laughingstock. When you want to get rid of a pack of wolves, you NEVER get into the middle of the pack.

UncleMilo wrote:Wow! Uncle Milo has the nerve to get upset when someone else mocks the suffering and torment of others!

You know what, kthulhu... you've made my day.

Seeing how I speak out on issues while all you can do is speak out against me, it just makes my day that much brighter.

And there's that swingin' elitism. "I speak out about issues all day, and you guys don't. My mental dick is SOOOO much larger than all of yours".

What issues do you REALLY speak out about? All I ever see you do is belittle others for having an opinion that runs counter-current to your fragile, warped worldview. Like RadicalEd0 not feeling anything after watching GOTF last time this thread rolled around just got your ire up so much. How DARE he have his own fucking different emotional reaction!!!

I know your type, sir. You're a part of the population that acts fakey-radical, and tries to protray yourselves as progressive, tolerant individuals - when in reality, you and your ilk are nothing more than bleeding heart totalitarians, who'd like nothing better than to have the rest of us lockstep into your own controlling mental slavery - so long as you guys got to be on the top, the rest of us can all suffer in a sea of PC brainwashing and soma.

Fuck you and those who think like you. You have every right to your opinion, but you have no right to act like you're above or better than the rest of us, and you shouldn't be surprised when people parody or call you on it. Note the quote at the very top - I just about called you perfectly. Think about that, and use some restraint in the future, before pulling your "radical, deep" bullshit that anyone with half a brain can see the sheer ridiculousness of.

I hate to make posts like this, but sometimes it is necessary.

Propyro · Post by **Propyro** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 7:43 pm

Kthulhu wrote:anything s/he said about UncleMilo getting up set aobut people having a different opinion.

Well, your right, it's not right to get upset because somone has a contradictory opinion then yours, but it happens to every one to some degree. I'm sure when you read a post about somone bashing your favorite anime you get a little upset. I know it happens to me. I just don't go mental on people for having a different opinion, or i try not to, or i jsut hide it by joking around. Now don't say that it never bothers you when peopels opinions contradict yrou own because it happens to every one! Theres something in psychology to explain it, and i don't know psyche so i can't explain it, maybe dwchang would know better since he actualy studied a little of it.

And uncle milo, you don't really have to blow up and try looking down on use like that. But i guess some of use are just better at repressing the emotions that are stirred up by other peoples opinions. I dont really know if that emotional repression something that can easily be changed on a person with out causing any kind of dammage.

well theres my 2 cents ... hope they don't go down the wrong way.

Mroni · Post by **Mroni** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:22 pm

Uncle Milo is so above everyone! I just can't fathom how we can live without his enlightening thought. Oh hail Great Milo. Whatever he dosen't accept that people are affected differently emotionally than he is too. He needs to listen to that metallica song King nothing either that or Holier than thou. He would be good writing a gay column for one of those newspapers you know like a restaurant review or something.

Mr Oni

Propyro · Post by **Propyro** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:38 pm

well your not helping much either mroni ... and your blatant pedophelia posts aren't all that comforting either... but thats kinda off topic.

Mroni · Post by **Mroni** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 9:13 pm

Propyro wrote:well your not helping much either mroni ... and your blatant pedophelia posts aren't all that comforting either... but thats kinda off topic.

Helping what? And how does the fact that i think the dead chick was pretty hot discomfort you?

Mr Oni