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Post by The_Mad_Hatter » Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:09 pm

jonmartensen wrote:You are practicing a false freewill.
Easy enough to say, but can you back it up without showing your true colors? There's a fine line between having a point and being disagreeable just for the sake of disagreeing.
You have strayed from the course and are striving for pre Socratean principals mixing Thrasymachus' principals of the advantage of the stronger with existentialist views.
"Your" course, obviously being the "correct" one, huh?
You do not have true freewill, you only practice freewill in bad faith.
Again with blind accusations, you have yet to prove anything with a coherent argument. Be careful, I might get bored and ignore you if you don't make yourself more interesting. ^_^
Rather than hiding this lack of freedom from yourself with ignorance, you choose to hide it with arrogance.
You STILL haven't been able to explain WHY you think I do not have "true" free will.
The fact that you use arrogance to hide the truth from yourself sugggests you know of these shortcomings.
Actually I use arrogance as a tool to bring out emotions in others, so they will judge me harsher, which then in turns makes be go above and beyond my normal limits. See if I just released my AMVs, was nice and quiet, they'd probably all get 9's and higher...but by being arrogant and "attacking" others before hand, people will judge much harsher, which then in turn makes me strive to go beyond the levels that you would consider "perfection".
So I pose to you, which is worse, to be unaware of your shortcomings and not try to improve yourself, or to be aware of what you lack and choose to ignore it?
You still haven't even been able to explain your reasoning. I thoroughly explained the reasons behind my beliefs, so far all you've got is finger pointing cause you don't like people who are arrogant and have the balls to back it up.
No, you are no weak lemming, but you are a lemming none the less.
You can believe whatever failing delusion gets you by another day, Cupcake, makes no difference to me. But hey, if you do manage to formulate a coherent argument, who knows, I might be able to find the bother to take you seriously...I'm not gonna hold by breath though.

And uh, BTW, most of my philosophies are actually based on Nihilistic and Phenomenalistic ideals and beliefs.
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Re: Free Will and Anarchy

Post by Summanaro » Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:21 pm

earthcurrent wrote:Free Will and Anarchy.
My question: Can Free Will exist in Anarchy?
wtfh is anarchy?????
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Re: Free Will and Anarchy

Post by The_Mad_Hatter » Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:28 pm

Summanaro wrote:
earthcurrent wrote:Free Will and Anarchy.
My question: Can Free Will exist in Anarchy?
wtfh is anarchy?????
Well ya see first it's like "OOOooo" and "Aaahhh"...but then, then there's running...and screaming. After that, explosions...followed by destruction and chaos...mmm...and there could possibly be some itching involved...QUARRELSOME itching! o_O
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Post by jonmartensen » Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:32 pm

You can believe whatever failing delusion gets you by another day, Cupcake, makes no difference to me. But hey, if you do manage to formulate a coherent argument, who knows, I might be able to find the bother to take you seriously...I'm not gonna hold by breath though.
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Post by KhayotiK » Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:35 pm

I love you summ.

Who shall be the judge of another's weakness? I am blind to the fact of how jon can know what is best for T-M-H, but being that it was a generalized comment, I see no reason to take it offensively. It's hard to judge who is able to strive without society, for we all have been raised in it, and know not the true effects of life without a "proper" code of conduct. I personally believe that man is smart enough to go on without society, we built it because we knew it was a damn good strategy, the creation of it would be impossible WITHOUT free will, at least as far as I can see.
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Post by Rozard » Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:43 pm

Webster's defines anarchy as "the absence of government; lawless confusion and political disorder; general disorder." I tend to think of anarchy as a modification of the latter; complete disorder. So I don't see the question of whether or not free will can exist in anarchy or not. Anarchy is essentially free will without any guidence.

Without some sort of guidence or input, we can not truly function. Humans need adversity in order to live. So, in essence, true anarchy would never be realized, because there is always adversity. Whatever, I'm rambling too much (I typed a lot more, but kept erasing it). I probably haven't made any sense :?
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Post by kthulhu » Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:47 pm

Anarchists are just the same left and right wing totalitarian control freaks in a different sheepskin. They'll make sure they have their warm house, their regular food, and their regular security, all the while condemning anyone else who wants these as "wrong". About the only use anarchy has is as a sort-of tool for governmental reconstruction - and there are better ways to do that, from voting to organized armed rebellion.

Anarchy, despite all its ultra-left radical kitsch and appeal, is bullshit.
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Post by KhayotiK » Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:58 pm

kthulhu wrote:Anarchists are just the same left and right wing totalitarian control freaks in a different sheepskin. They'll make sure they have their warm house, their regular food, and their regular security, all the while condemning anyone else who wants these as "wrong". About the only use anarchy has is as a sort-of tool for governmental reconstruction - and there are better ways to do that, from voting to organized armed rebellion.

Anarchy, despite all its ultra-left radical kitsch and appeal, is bullshit.
You speak ultimate truths, thusly I forward my "War Against Punks" plan. We need to smash every last fucking mo-hawk with a baseball bat. My free will says I need to make sure their blood is still red.
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Post by The_Mad_Hatter » Wed Apr 16, 2003 11:07 pm

KhayotiK wrote:
kthulhu wrote:Anarchists are just the same left and right wing totalitarian control freaks in a different sheepskin. They'll make sure they have their warm house, their regular food, and their regular security, all the while condemning anyone else who wants these as "wrong". About the only use anarchy has is as a sort-of tool for governmental reconstruction - and there are better ways to do that, from voting to organized armed rebellion.

Anarchy, despite all its ultra-left radical kitsch and appeal, is bullshit.
You speak ultimate truths, thusly I forward my "War Against Punks" plan. We need to smash every last fucking mo-hawk with a baseball bat. My free will says I need to make sure their blood is still red.
And what happens if it turns out to be purple or yellow? o_O
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Post by Stoic » Wed Apr 16, 2003 11:09 pm

The_Mad_Hatter wrote:
Stoic wrote:You guys got it all wrong... It's FREE KEVIN!

*starts laughing at a hysterical inside joke that no one else would find funny.
Uh...I'm thinkin most people know who Kevin Mitnick is...freakin joke of the computer world. Unless you're refering to something else.
Referring to something else...

A friend of my name Kevin got picked up for doing something he didn't do by the cops... and as we driving home from the police station we saw a free kevin bumper sticker on the back of some ones car... It was funny!
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