any christians here?

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:06 pm

Okay. Well, we sure got nowhere with this. Now let's go get drunk.

pyro_256 · Post by **pyro_256** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 9:16 pm

why do you insist that there is a god? what purpose would that god serve? they're useless creations that will never change anything because they don't and can't exist

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 9:24 pm

pyro_256 wrote:why do you insist that there is a god? what purpose would that god serve? they're useless creations that will never change anything because they don't and can't exist

Is that so

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:01 am

pyro_256 wrote:because they don't and can't exist

Right... and you know this how?

pyro_256 · Post by **pyro_256** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:30 am

how can you prove me wrong?

The Messiah of Pain · Post by **The Messiah of Pain** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:42 am

pyro_256 wrote:how can you prove me wrong?

God is a dogma.

faith can't prove him right.

science really has yet to prove him wrong.

plus in terms of debating, god is a dogma simply because its not a question that can be proved wrong.

example: Gravity. for the longest time, Gravity was considered an absolute, till einstein(sp?) came in, totally crushed that absolute, making it no longer one (being that there is no Grav. in space.)

now you got God, "There is a God" can't be proven right, nor can be proven wrong. who is anyone to say it is right or wrong? its not even a question that is debatable (of course that doesn't stop it from being debated on with a horde of circumstantial evidences which really isn't evidence at all), hence its a dogma..

if you think of it like that, your wasting your time by saying that statement thing it has any solidity what so ever, even tho it very well be the truth..

dogma's aren't truth. hence your statement isn't correct.

pyro_256 · Post by **pyro_256** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:47 am

i can have my opinions, whether they're right or wrong, i can still feel free to state them. so my statement as an opinion can't be incorrect.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 1:09 am

pyro_256 wrote:why do you insist that there is a god? what purpose would that god serve? they're useless creations that will never change anything because they don't and can't exist

well science has yet to disprove god, but the puddle theory has been so if you want to keep denying the existence of a creator or supreme being just realize that your the one in denial.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 1:11 am

pyro_256 wrote:i can have my opinions, whether they're right or wrong, i can still feel free to state them. so my statement as an opinion can't be incorrect.

yes an OPINION is not a FACT so you can't go around stating your opinion as a fact.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:24 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote:You claim there is no God and expect me to believe we were amde by a puddle?

We were made by the laws of physics overcomign the laws of entropy.

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