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Post by CaTaClYsM » Wed Apr 02, 2003 4:51 pm

Can't we just agree that bush is the lesser of two evils and move on?
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Post by Jace Tsunami » Wed Apr 02, 2003 4:54 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote:Can't we just agree that bush is the lesser of two evils and move on?
You know, for once I agree with you Cat, and it's blatently obvious.

I don't know why ANYONE is arguing this.
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Post by buddykiller » Wed Apr 02, 2003 5:26 pm

ok, why does it not suprise me that yet again i've got to reply to a SHIT LOAD of long ass threads o_O i'm going to write a program to do this shit for me goddamnitt!!
Dark Dragon wrote:Haven't you heard the expression you can't make an omlette without breaking a few eggs?
yes, but yanno what? human's arn't eggs and war for oil is fucking breakfast neither
Well, you can't have peace without cracking a few skulls, yes people will die, yes this war may seem stupid to you, but Bush is saving those people from a sadistic psychopath, freedom always comes with a heavy cost.
ok, if that was our real reason for fighting this war then why didn't we do that 10 fucking years ago? common get a fucking clue we're greedy bastards and all of our soldiers are expendible o_O
You obviously never lost a loved one on that day, I nearly lost an uncle in the attacks on the Twin Towers, if he hadn't of stopped for a cup of coffee he'd be dead now.
no, not on that particular day but i've lost very many loved ones, what makes that day so fucking special eh? wow 3000 people died, big fuckin' deal!!! that many people die a fucking second in the us so fucking grow up, that day is no different than today, or tommorow in fact, i'm sure that if your uncle died tommorow you would have been as grief stricken as you would have been if he'd died that day, at least if he'd died on 9/11 than you'd have alot more people to fall back on, that you could rely on for support so actually every day but that day is worse, fuck 9/11
The bombing campaigns aren't killing as many people as the Republican guards or how many Saddam has killed over the years.
oi..... the republican guards are killing people why? BECAUSE WE INVADED THEIR FUCKING LAND!!! they know that if they use civillians that we won't harm them because we're too afraid of killing civillians, hell over half the world is against us thats all we need is to kill a few fucking civillians, then some country would come over here and bomb our asses, and yea saddam is an asshole and he is a coward, but it's not our place to deal with him at this time, thats what the un is for
All you're really bitching about is how unfair it is that Bush is the presidant, so fucking what? He is a damn good one in my opinion on the choices we had. So why don't you shut the hell up you yuppie, sheesh you bitch more than I do when someone trys to shove their opinions on me without giving me a place to stand on.
oh realy? just bitching because it's unfair that bush is the president? i could give a flying fuck less who the president is!!! all i know is that if we could have re-elected clinton, and he was in office right now, we wouldn't have this war, that man knew how to hold "peace" tretties yanno? (and yea the peace treaty thing was a fucking joke) so i'm the yuppie eh? i'm a conservitive cock-sucker who blindly supports our nation just because i live here, oh wait i've gotten us confused.... and hell yea i bitch, i bitch because i can
Also Bush would only be a true mass murderer if he told the soldiers to go out there and kill everything, men women and children, but no, we are only after Saddam.
roflmfao, thats the biggest load of shit i've heard in my entire life, even fucking cnn can tell you it's not about saddam, if we where after saddam we could taken the motherfucker out with special ops.... this is a war about oil, yea, maybe we can look good and liberate a few motherfuckers in the process, but like i said, if that was the reason we woulda done it a LONG time ago.....

now thats over, time to start on this other bitch o_O
Zerophite wrote:No, it's on anyone's hands. Why? Because the draft hasn't started yet. The only people in this war so far are the people who did what? Joined the military? I think so. They knew, as of signing up, that if war starts, they're in on it. It's something you have to take in mind on signing up. Blaming Bush for their own mistake is stupid. It's just like blaming milk for making your cereal soggy, when you were the one who put the milk in to begin with.
ok, did bush twist anybody's arm to join the army? no, but over half of our army is there because those people needed an education and they couldn't pay for it, so our great and grand military said here, we'll give you money, you just become a soldier, it's not like theres going to be a war or anything.... so yea, the blood is on his hands, and actually not only on his hands but congress's hands as well
You have no idea what you're talking about do you? I have an idea, move to Iraq...no seriously. If you're so against US's involvement in Iraq, go there and see how much better off you'll be. Comparing Bush to terrorists is possibly the stupidest thing you can do right now.
yea, i know what i'm talking about, and move to iraq? why so some thimble headed prick can order an air strike on me? fuck you! i'm stayin right here in my little home and enjoying my freedom of speech just to piss motherfucking idiots like you off, just because i leave here doesn't mean i have to agree with this idiot who calls himself the president...
Terrorist groups kill for the "good" of their people, but go about it in a totally unhumane way (i.e. September 11th). Terrorists like Saddam, do you have any idea what he does? What he's like? Obviously not if you compare him to Bush. Saddam kills his people, his country hates him, same with Osama Bin Laden.

They do things for the subjective "good" of their people

Even though the world doesn't want to admit it, this war will be good for the future.
ok, lets start out with this unhumane bullshit, if you kill somebody you kill them, there is no "humane" way to kill a motherfucker, just because you kill somebody in a painless way doesn't mean squat, you still killed 'em your a murderer any way you go about it, why not have fun? and what to you is a terrorist is in the eyes of another a fucking hero, all this is nothing but opinion when it comes right down to it, i'm sure when Joan of Arc did what she did there where people who supported her and people who fucking hated her like we do bin laden, but who's to say whether or not she did the right thing? nobody can.... do i know what saddam does? hell yea i know what the sick motherfucker does, just because i'm anti-war doesn't mean i'm pro-saddam, he's a cowardly motherfucker that deserves to get the shit kicked out of him, but none of his soldiers do, their just following orders the same way ours are, i'm sure we have soldiers that if we hadn't told them not to kill civillians they'd be shootin' every motherfucker they see because their being ambushed by underhanded guerilla tactics, so realy this is about bush/blair vs. saddam, everybody else is just a pawn in this stupid game.... so see bush and blair both are just like saddam, in a milder more controled sort of way, good for the future? obviously, but is it the right way to go about it? there are alternatives to war yanno? war is alot like cheating on a test, it's quicker and seems alot easier than the other ways but then there are horrible reprecussions, in this war there are fatalities, we stand a big chance of losing some allies, ect... will it be good for the future? yup... is it the best choice? i don't think so...
What will come out of it? Iraq will be free from a terrorist regime. If you knew what the fuck the Iraqi people were under right now, you wouldn't say shit. So shut the fuck up. I agree, they'll be free after this.
iraq will be free, for now, until another saddam comes around to fuck them over, i do know what the iraqi people are under but yanno what? seems pretty fucked up that some of them support saddam doesn't it? so some people must want him to be ruler, telling me to shut the fuck up? fuck you i have a right to express my opinion freely
Ok look, I didn't read the rest of your post again because it's filled with ignorant babble like all the rest of yours have been. You didn't want an argument, but your banner clearly does.
uhm no i don't want to argue, i hate arguing, it wastes my time and the time of every motherfucker that reads it, why do i argue? because you people try to shove shit in my mouth and down my throat, do i like arguing? fuck no, will i? yea, until my point is made and voiced clearly, then i don't care what you say about me, just like all my other posts are huh? seems your the only one that agrees, and uhm my banner states my opinion and the way i feel so fuck you, if you don't like it leave
Alright, I'm not a patriot, I don't think I ever have been. My house has never waved a flag or praised America,mind you, we do celebrate independence day. I'm far from the great average American that supports his own country, but I do like my freedom, even though with new laws such as Homeland Security and big businesses, it does seem to be lacking in a lot of areas.
did i ever say i didn't like my freedom? nor do i take it for granted, if some crazy mother fucker tried to invade this country i'd protect my family and my wife until i couldn't lift my head anymore so don't even try to insinuate that bullshit
But Here's what I'm sick of...

"America does nothing for the world but cause war and destruction."
"America is a war mongering nation that will do anything to show it's power."
"America...yadda yadda yadda...killing innocent people."

Ok, back in the 80s there was a man from Toranto that wrote a paper on what good America has done. About how we aid other countries constantly, we give food, we help them out, and what good America has done for the world. Now, America has the power to do a lot, and does, but man, as soon as we go and stop a threat, we're the fucking criminals.

All the sudden the whole world hates us. Canadian's boo our national anthem, we're subjected to riticule across the world. But does anyone ever take the time to think about all that we've done before the war? The people who ask for help, get it, we give food, aid, and try and make good of things that aren't. But no one takes that into mind once we say someone is a threat to the world and needs to be rid of. America turns into the big bad guy. We're teh militaristic nation that will do anything to kill. We are the plague against all that is good.
did i ever say that america has done nothing but evil? no, i'm saying that this war is wrong and for the most part i don't agree with most of the shit this government tries to do in my good name! so what if we've done good before the war, we fucked up and everybody is voicing their opinion of that, we are leading an uninvoked war against a nation of the un, the un can take care of this if we'd let them, but nooooo big ol' bush wants to be a stubborn asshole and go play with his toys in the sand... if we took every dollar we are putting into this war into helping people damn we could save alot of lives, alot more lives than we're going to save with this bloody war...
I dont' want tohear any of this "the blood is on Bush's hands" bullshit. It's more on your own for your illsupport than on his. You're a fucking American, this is war time. I don't think you know that your country IS AT WAR! People are defending your country, and the rest of the world, from a threat. There is no other way to go about it with Saddam but war, he can't be dealt with, you obviously don't know that he's a psycho, same with Bin Laden.

So don't fucking point any fingers at anyone but yourself for the blood of innocent people and military being spilled across the battlefield.
once again, so what if this country is at war? i still don't agree with the decision of dubya and i will not support it, under any circumstances!!! how am i killing people by voicing my opinion about this stupid war? how am i slaughtering innocent civillians with 2000lbs bombs by not support the president? there are other ways around it, this is just the fastest, i'll point fingers at who i feel is responsible for this bloody mess, and those people are bush, blair, and saddam!!!
That's the most "pro-war" you'll ever get me...which pretty much gave up my anti-war persona...I need to join an anti-war march (which, if you didn't know, aren't around to stop the war, but to get America to realize that a war is going on, people are dying. It's a "knowledge is power" march more than it is an "anti-war" march. So I dont' want to get any gruff on that).
once again i do not support this war, i don't support our govt, does this mean that i don't support our troop or that i am in support of saddam? fuck no, the troops are simply doing their job, thats the mistake the anti war people made back in the 60's with 'Nam, they hated the soldiers and blamed them for the war, they where disgraced when realy it should of been their government and their president who was spat upon.... and yea, they are trying to stop the war, why the hell would they be shouting peace if they where just trying to get people to realize that war is going on and people are dying, everybody knows that, the fucking news in on 24/7 on 1500 channels broadcasting that shit!!!! anti-war movments purpose are to say hey, not all americans want this stupid war and it's ignorant and should be stopped, grant it i don't agree with protesters getting violent toward police, but i do, however, support the peace movement
"Spirituality: The last refuge of a failed human. Just another way of distracting yourself from who you realy are."

Looks like someone needs to study religion as well.

There are more religions than christianity.
You can be spiritual without being christian.
You can be spiritual without being religious.

I take offense to this statement.
But I think the issue is, I hate you. You're a moron, so wipe your ass with a box jellyfish.
o_O you make my eye twitch, the feelings mutual asshole
It's not a war for oil.

France is an alley....and wait...haha...war with France? That's laughable.
oh realy? than whats it a war for? freedom? don't make me laugh

and i must say thank you to everybody that has stuck up for me, the list of names is by far too long for me to type, or copy for that matter, this is the longest post i've ever made and damn my hands are fucking tired from all this typing!!!!
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Post by Dark Dragon » Wed Apr 02, 2003 5:42 pm

All I want to say is-

You are trite and jaded.-

Now, all I have to say,

You are a little bitch aren't you? And a bad mouth at that. The reason 9/11 is different to me, instead of if it was just a fire or something, is an evil sadistic bastich plotted to kill innocents, and say it was in the name of God and nearly took my uncle from me.

My feelings on that day were a mixture of scared shitless, pissed off, and wanting to go run under my bed, for nearly a week anything sounding remotly like an air plane made me want to scream in fear and run away. And I'm lucky to not have nightmares about that day.

And guess what, I don't care what you think M###### I say bomb Saddam to hell and back again and the same for Osama, if you listened to more than one news group you'd know Saddam don't give shit about his people, at least Bush is trying to help, but noooo, you have to say Bush is a killer, well guess what, your a flaming retard.

Big news flash on how people die in war, if you thought this was going to be a piece of cake, get your head out of your ass you jackass. Now all you're doing is trying to get attention, so I say, fuck off you fucking nut, nuttier than a fruit cake and fruitier than a fruit.

And I don't care if you try and quote me and put words in my mouth I never wrote nor said, for to thee, I roll my eyes, see here I go-

:roll: :roll: :roll:. I'd roll my eyes somemore but I'm getting dizzy, so goodbye moron with no brain and no eyes to see past your nose, to thee, I would also flip you, but sence there is no icon like that, nor am I strong enough to flip a person my size or bigger I'll let someone come along and set you right.
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Post by Jace Tsunami » Wed Apr 02, 2003 5:49 pm

Buddy

SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU ARE THE MOST UNINFORMED PERSON I HAVE EVER MET

You dug your self a hole, you dug it depper, and now it's filling with water. Why don't you shut the fuck up before you drown yourself.

You're COMPLETLEY 100% opinionated, you have no fucking clue of ANYHTING you're talking about.

Now pleasse, for the benefit of you, and everyone else your dumb mouth has been tlaking to, SHUT THE FUCK UP
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Post by jonmartensen » Wed Apr 02, 2003 5:52 pm

Jace Tsunami wrote:Buddy

SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU ARE THE MOST UNINFORMED PERSON I HAVE EVER MET

You dug your self a hole, you dug it depper, and now it's filling with water. Why don't you shut the fuck up before you drown yourself.

You're COMPLETLEY 100% opinionated, you have no fucking clue of ANYHTING you're talking about.

Now pleasse, for the benefit of you, and everyone else your dumb mouth has been tlaking to, SHUT THE FUCK UP
Meh, he can say whatever he wants to.
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Post by Jace Tsunami » Wed Apr 02, 2003 5:54 pm

he can, but like I said, he's making himself look like a giant dumb fuck
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Post by fyrtenheimer » Wed Apr 02, 2003 5:54 pm

Why the fuck do you guys make threads about the same thing? Argue argue argue

It all ends up the same as well.
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Post by jonmartensen » Wed Apr 02, 2003 5:58 pm

If people would rather look like an idiot, than not, that's their prerogative. They don't have to shut up, and you don't have to agree with them (or vice versa)
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Post by Jace Tsunami » Wed Apr 02, 2003 6:11 pm

well, he's spitting out things like facts, and he couldn't be more wrong, I just hope he knwos this.
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