BUDDYKILLER - READ PLZ

[HungryCrackPot]

I celebrate the day I was born, which is coming up soon.
I am Phade.

[Jace Tsunami]

ush is not a mass murder, I hate the stupid fuck, but I'm not that imature, I won't say bad things about the man thata rn't true. After all, he is the rpesident of the united states, anyone who achieved that rank in life at any point in time is worthy of atleast some respect.

Besides, more people are dying in the U.S. right now from normal causes than our guys are in Iraq.

about 800,000 americans die a day. That's antural deaths, car accidents, drug over dosces, disease, what ever the fuck you wanna name, combined. Now, are 800,000 dying a day in Iraq? NO. Bush is not a mass murderer

[Wykith]

A cookie for whoever figures out what the hell Jace just said.

[Dark Dragon]

I think he mean's that Bush isn't a mass murderer like some people are claiming.

[Miko_Arikidei]

ok, number one, i was asking HIM this, but since you all decided to jump in i guess i can say exactly what i was saying, i was ASKING...my god....i just wanted to know why he thinks bush is a mass murderer i was not condeming him for it or anyhting of the sort, I JUST WANT TO KNOW, i am a curious person, and i was also asking him to be patriotic about us being at war, putting stuff like our President is a mass murderer isnt too patriotic, but like i said, this is for all of your personal views....since none could mind their own business (although i would have read it as well =P)...anyhow, i do not like bush either, but since he is our president we must respect him for he is one of the few people that has balls enough to run for the president of the United States, and i do not think this is China for whoever said that.

[MAS PRODUCTIONS]

This isn't directed at one person but people's view points on what patriotism is, is kind of screwed up.

Main Entry: pa·tri·ot·ism
Pronunciation: 'pA-trE-&-"ti-z&m, chiefly British 'pa-
Function: noun
Date: circa 1726
: love for or devotion to one's country

No where does this say that patriotism means agreeing with what your country does all the time. I dont agree with this war. That has nothing to do with being un-patriotic, it just means that I dis-agree with the view points taken by the government. I like being in this country (although the government really screws us over sometimes) and I cant think of a better place to grow up (although I spent a better half of my life in germany), but that doesn't mean that I should have to agree with what my country does.

Just in case you dont know my view points on this, and so you dont go screaming, UN-PATRIOT!!!!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!!!! Here is my take on the war.

Saddam is a power hungry man who is not held down by the same kind of laws as us. Should he be taken out of power? Yes, he does, he isn't a very good leader and because of that his country is failing. Should we bomb a country just for one man? No we shouldn't, we did the same thing with Bin Laden and look where it got us, we might have taken out the government but we never got Bin Ladin. The same will happen with Saddam, we will never find him as long as he doesn't want to be found. He is still alive in my opinion and it will stay that way as long as people in his government want it that way. Also I dont think that killing Saddam is the answer. I hear alot of people say "SHOOT HIS HEAD OFF!!" and "KILL HIM". I think that death is too good for Saddam, he should pay for the crimes against man that he committed but not by death. It has always been my viewpoint that killing is wrong, and to wish it on someone is wrong. If you had any kind of religous or moral code you wouldn't be saying such things (no matter how evil the person is, actually it gives more reason to keep them alive so that they can pay for their crimes).

Anyways those are my point of views, weither if you agree with them or not.

[buddykiller]

i was just wondering, why the hell do you think that Bush is a mass murderer? just because he sent our troops to war?

yes... the blood of any american soldier harmed in this war is on the hands of Bush, also the blood of every iraqi soldier and every iraqi civillian harmed in this war by american bullets, or american bombs is also on his hands. This is what makes him a mass murder.... he is just another stupid terrorist the same goes for mr. tony blair.

i think that is just the opposite of being a mass murderer, because if we had let Saddam go on, he would have surely made more weapons of mass destruction.

so far the only "weapon of mass destruction" that we know for a fact he has is scuds, grant it they have found chem suits, but we still do not know for sure, secondly, what the hell do you think is going to come out of corning this lunitic? i for one do beleive that he has weapons of mass destruction and a large dump of chemical/biological warheads, corning saddam is going to be like corning a fucking snake, he's going to say aw to hell with it and blow the fuck out of everybody around him including himself, that is one of the main reasons i'm against this war, let special ops handle the stupid motherfucker, it'll cost us less money, there will be less casualties, and most importantly there won't be a loss of innocent lives...

yes, war costs lives. no, war isnt a good thing. but by god at least be patriotic during a time of war.

obviously war costs lives, a big major reason for my decision to be anti-war, note that i am anti-war, i'm not pro-saddam, i'm not anti-sodlier, just anti-american, i don't agree with my president on this issue, i don't agree with congress okaying this stupid war, i don't agree with anybody (which is the news is right is the majority) that is pro-war.... so what if i'm not patriotic? at least i'm not supporting the slaughtering of thousands of innocents which will inevitibly happen once we enter baghdad because saddam is such a coward... i wasn't even patriotic when 9/11 happened, it was ok for the first few days but after that every time i saw a fucking flag i wanted to throw up!

i support Bush's decision to go to war, and if you dont, i have just a few words for you:

SHUT UP OR GET OUT!

and i'm sure you voted for the pin-headed son of a bitch.... and in response to your last statement i simply have two words for ya: Fuck ya...

and before i go on, allow me to take this moment to thank everybody for sticking up for the freedom of speech when i wasn't here

ush is not a mass murder, I hate the stupid fuck, but I'm not that imature, I won't say bad things about the man thata rn't true.

ok, read my first few statements, if bush isn't a mass murder than lets free charlie manson, he's not realy a serial killer, he didn't touch anybody, but whats that? oh, he's responisble for them, thats right, oh damn there goes that idea.....

After all, he is the rpesident of the united states, anyone who achieved that rank in life at any point in time is worthy of atleast some respect.

anybody with the right amount of money and the right contacts can achieve that rank in life..... i don't even understand why they have a popular vote, it doesn't count for shit.... if anybody can explain this to me, please do so

Besides, more people are dying in the U.S. right now from normal causes than our guys are in Iraq.

and the 70 some billion dollars we're pouring into this stupid ignorant war could be spent on saving their lives, more blood on mr. bush's hands...

about 800,000 americans die a day. That's antural deaths, car accidents, drug over dosces, disease, what ever the fuck you wanna name, combined. Now, are 800,000 dying a day in Iraq?

so? iraq isn't even half the size of the us, it's only about the size of cali, so obviously not, but i bet if you went on a statistical basis, more people are dying in iraq than in the us, due to tyrinical rule, mass bombing campaigns by the us, being used as human shields, and being fired upon by thier own soldiers!!

NO. Bush is not a mass murderer

i've already dealt with this statement at least 3 times by now...

ok, number one, i was asking HIM this, but since you all decided to jump in i guess i can say exactly what i was saying, i was ASKING

i'm sure you where but you seemed awful fucking rude about it, everybody has a right to ask questions but at least do it in a civilized manor

i just wanted to know why he thinks bush is a mass murderer i was not condeming him for it or anyhting of the sort, I JUST WANT TO KNOW

you weren't were you? thats why you told me to shut up and get out? or maybe thats why you where so fucking rude about the whole thing? like i said everybody has the right to question but damn, you where just bitching

i am a curious person, and i was also asking him to be patriotic about us being at war, putting stuff like our President is a mass murderer isnt too patriotic

patriotic? if supporting a war is patriotic than you can shove it up your ass, our president is a mass murderer just like charles manson, once again, i support our soldiers, i don't want them to die, i want them to do a good job and get outa there as soon as possible, do i support america? no, do i support this fucking war? no, do i support the death of thousands of innocents? no, do i wish this war never happend so that i wouldn't have to support the soldiers? yes, see, i am patriotic in my own way, i just feel that the war is as of now unjustified, i mean i think he has wmd but we don't have proof, i mean think about it, just on that off chance that he doesn't... how big of an asshole would america look like?

anyhow, i do not like bush either, but since he is our president we must respect him for he is one of the few people that has balls enough to run for the president of the United States

bush has done nothing to deserve respect, if you think he should get respect just for being president than your about off your rocker, as i said to jace's post, anybody with the right amount of money and the right amount of "friends" can be president, because remember, when you go and slip your balot into the balot box you just wasted an hour of your time because the popular vote counts for shit, it's meaningless, the electorial college elects the stupid president... respect him? not until he gives me a reason, and due to all these fuck ups it had better be a damned good one

[Dark Dragon]

Haven't you heard the expression you can't make an omlette without breaking a few eggs?

Well, you can't have peace without cracking a few skulls, yes people will die, yes this war may seem stupid to you, but Bush is saving those people from a sadistic psychopath, freedom always comes with a heavy cost.

so what if i'm not patriotic? at least i'm not supporting the slaughtering of thousands of innocents which will inevitibly happen once we enter baghdad because saddam is such a coward... i wasn't even patriotic when 9/11 happened, it was ok for the first few days but after that every time i saw a fucking flag i wanted to throw up!

You obviously never lost a loved one on that day, I nearly lost an uncle in the attacks on the Twin Towers, if he hadn't of stopped for a cup of coffee he'd be dead now.

so? iraq isn't even half the size of the us, it's only about the size of cali, so obviously not, but i bet if you went on a statistical basis, more people are dying in iraq than in the us, due to tyrinical rule, mass bombing campaigns by the us, being used as human shields, and being fired upon by thier own soldiers!!

The bombing campaigns aren't killing as many people as the Republican guards or how many Saddam has killed over the years.

All you're really bitching about is how unfair it is that Bush is the presidant, so fucking what? He is a damn good one in my opinion on the choices we had. So why don't you shut the hell up you yuppie, sheesh you bitch more than I do when someone trys to shove their opinions on me without giving me a place to stand on.

Also Bush would only be a true mass murderer if he told the soldiers to go out there and kill everything, men women and children, but no, we are only after Saddam.

[jonmartensen]

After all, he is the rpesident of the united states, anyone who achieved that rank in life at any point in time is worthy of atleast some respect.

anybody with the right amount of money and the right contacts can achieve that rank in life..... i don't even understand why they have a popular vote, it doesn't count for shit.... if anybody can explain this to me, please do so

Tell that to Steve Forbes

[Zerophite]

<b>ALRIGHT! LETS PLAY THIS AGAIN!

"Shut the fuck up Buddykiller - <i>ROUND TWO!</i>"</b>

yes... the blood of any american soldier harmed in this war is on the hands of Bush

No, it's on anyone's hands. Why? Because the draft hasn't started yet. The only people in this war so far are the people who did what? Joined the military? I think so. They knew, as of signing up, that if war starts, they're in on it. It's something you have to take in mind on signing up. Blaming Bush for their own mistake is stupid. It's just like blaming milk for making your cereal soggy, when you were the one who put the milk in to begin with.

also the blood of every iraqi soldier and every iraqi civillian harmed in this war by american bullets, or american bombs is also on his hands. This is what makes him a mass murder.... he is just another stupid terrorist the same goes for mr. tony blair.

You have no idea what you're talking about do you? I have an idea, move to Iraq...no seriously. If you're so against US's involvement in Iraq, go there and see how much better off you'll be. Comparing Bush to terrorists is possibly the stupidest thing you can do right now.

Terrorist groups kill for the "good" of their people, but go about it in a totally unhumane way (i.e. September 11th). Terrorists like Saddam, do you have any idea what he does? What he's like? Obviously not if you compare him to Bush. Saddam kills his people, his country hates him, same with Osama Bin Laden.

They do things for the subjective "good" of their people

<b>Even though the world doesn't want to admit it, this war will be good for the future.</b>

so far the only "weapon of mass destruction" that we know for a fact he has is scuds, grant it they have found chem suits, but we still do not know for sure, secondly, what the hell do you think is going to come out of corning this lunitic?

GAR! You don't get it! "Weapons of Mass Destruction" was what bush used to go there. Of course, he went about it the wrong way. Look, he was suspect of having weapons of mass destruction, we wanted an inspection, and he did have nuclear weapons, which he was told to disarm, he didn't, so what are we doing? I don't need to go into it.

What will come out of it? Iraq will be free from a terrorist regime. If you knew what the fuck the Iraqi people were under right now, you wouldn't say shit. So shut the fuck up. I agree, they'll be free after this.
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Ok look, I didn't read the rest of your post again because it's filled with ignorant babble like all the rest of yours have been. You didn't want an argument, but your banner clearly does.

Alright, I'm not a patriot, I don't think I ever have been. My house has never waved a flag or praised America,mind you, we do celebrate independence day. I'm far from the great average American that supports his own country, but I do like my freedom, even though with new laws such as Homeland Security and big businesses, it does seem to be lacking in a lot of areas. But Here's what I'm sick of...

"America does nothing for the world but cause war and destruction."
"America is a war mongering nation that will do anything to show it's power."
"America...yadda yadda yadda...killing innocent people."

Ok, back in the 80s there was a man from Toranto that wrote a paper on what good America has done. About how we aid other countries constantly, we give food, we help them out, and what good America has done for the world. Now, America has the power to do a lot, and does, but man, as soon as we go and stop a threat, we're the fucking criminals.

All the sudden the whole world hates us. Canadian's boo our national anthem, we're subjected to riticule across the world. But does anyone ever take the time to think about all that we've done before the war? The people who ask for help, get it, we give food, aid, and try and make good of things that aren't. But no one takes that into mind once we say someone is a threat to the world and needs to be rid of. America turns into the big bad guy. We're teh militaristic nation that will do anything to kill. We are the plague against all that is good.

But if someone is in need, they won't hesitate to ask for help, but dont' worry, big brother is always watching.

Everyone is quick to ask for help, and also quick to point the finger.

I dont' want tohear any of this "the blood is on Bush's hands" bullshit. It's more on your own for your illsupport than on his. You're a fucking American, this is war time. I don't think you know that your country IS AT WAR! People are defending your country, and the rest of the world, from a threat. There is no other way to go about it with Saddam but war, he can't be dealt with, you obviously don't know that he's a psycho, same with Bin Laden.

So don't fucking point any fingers at anyone but yourself for the blood of innocent people and military being spilled across the battlefield.
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That's the most "pro-war" you'll ever get me...which pretty much gave up my anti-war persona...I need to join an anti-war march (which, if you didn't know, aren't around to stop the war, but to get America to realize that a war is going on, people are dying. It's a "knowledge is power" march more than it is an "anti-war" march. So I dont' want to get any gruff on that).