Audio codecs

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 4:04 am

ok, I need definitive answers, in the low bitrate range (128 and lower), what audio codecs produce the best sound?

RadicalEd0 · Post by **RadicalEd0** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 4:36 am

ogg vorbis and realaudio 8
realaudio can go much lower than vorbis, I've encoded stuff at 32 kbps (stereo) and it's been bearable. 64kbps is fine for general use. 48 is pushing it.
Vorbis sounds fine at 96kbps (it cant go much lower though)

jbone · Post by **jbone** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 7:46 am

Just use mp3, it's practically a universal standard. Most people still can't use Ogg Vorbis, and plenty of people still refuse to use Real (due to all the extra system-invading crap they include with the proprietary player).

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:07 am

Actually RealOne is pretty good. They have quite good cross platform support.

Only problem >_> <_<. Their reputation is tarnished for having crap for the longest time :\

~klinky

Azalin · Post by **Azalin** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:09 am

klinky wrote:Actually RealOne is pretty good. They have quite good cross platform support.

Only problem >_> <_<. Their reputation is tarnished for having crap for the longest time :\

~klinky

Agreed. RealOne seems to be ok. I'd have to go with Ogg Vorbis on this one though

jbone · Post by **jbone** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 10:25 am

I don't like RealOne at all. It makes many covert system modifications - not spyware-related, but invasive nonetheless. I had to go into my registry and manually remove several keys in order to prevent RealOne from autostarting some of its sub-applications on system startup.

The previous RealPlayer was far less invasive.

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:16 am

jbone wrote:I don't like RealOne at all. It makes many covert system modifications - not spyware-related, but invasive nonetheless. I had to go into my registry and manually remove several keys in order to prevent RealOne from autostarting some of its sub-applications on system startup.

The previous RealPlayer was far less invasive.

I don't think it matter though. Because I think there is a way to install 3rd party player that works fine. Correct me if I'm wrong, TAB?

RadicalEd0 · Post by **RadicalEd0** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:46 am

yeah, there is a package floating around which installs real's codecs, in which case you can then use mpc to playback realone. And anyway, cat merely asked what put out best quality, not what was well supported, liked, or universal

RadicalEd0 · Post by **RadicalEd0** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:48 am

blayback realmedia!* not realone :| expect me to be absent minded during vb class

iserlohn · Post by **iserlohn** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:52 am

What are you doing that you need codecs that low? If you're using music, forget it, keep the bits, people will forgive you. If this is spoken word (like audiobooks or drama cd's, etc.), you can get away with 64k mp3 on the high end and 32 on the low end...24 gives wmp6.4 and some portables issues.