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Maybe even Clebrity Boxing on Fox, I would pay to watch that although Saddam would kick bush's ass. Bush's secret weapon - a razpr rimmed hat, Saddams - Exploding Cigar. lol
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SSJVegita0609 wrote:
War is a terrible thing, I say Bush and Saddam just duke it out in a 1v1 deathmatch.

I haven't been convinced yet either. What they said was highly subjective and hardly rock hard evidence.
I don't have much problem with regime change in Iraq, but I am still not convinced at all the U.S. should be the ones doing it. I also think it should be done under different circumstances to prevent more allies from thinking even worse of us than they already do.
I still wonder if this is some gigantic bluff to scare Saddam out of Iraq. Aren't you supposed to not tell the enemy what you are up to in public? It just feels like a mix of intimidation tactics mixed with political posturing.

If one of the main complaints about Saddam is his treatment of his citizens...then....why would we be doing them a favor by killing them..er liberating them from his tyranny by blowing up their country?
He is a guy who needs to be brought to justice...but unless they go in and only kill him then we are no worse than him. We're using our weapons of war against his people...and that is what Bush doesn't think is right for him to do to us. How are american citizen's lives any different than their citizens lives? I am not talking here about the guys who are supposedly linked to the terrorism. It's like blowing up an innocent person's house to get to a bug that may not even be there anymore.
It's the same crime we say he would do to us. In this country you don't kill someone who might do you harm with your proof being the arms they have. The law says that is murder. Detaining them in another thing altogther.

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Not letting the inspectors in is a direct violation of the security council resolution. They are lying and everyone knows they are. They do not have the capabilty to destroy us. even if they had a nuclear weapon which is inconcievable. What they are working on is chemical weapons. If he wasn't working on this stuff and he didn't invade kuwait nobody would be worrying about him in the first place but he is and he did. And you can have a messed up point of view the fact is that an evil person is an evil person there are no gray areas there. For example if you are an Ira (freedom fighter/Terrorist) and you blow up a bus of english school kids you are evil. The same of course could be said for any of the protestant looneys who attacked those school kids a few years ago.MAS PRODUCTIONS wrote:So what if they have nuclear weapons, we all do now a days. If we force the issue and the fill backed into a corner they WILL use them. We are only guaranting our own destruction. Saddam wouldn't use nuclear weapons, he makes too much money from the US. I never for a minute believed he would attack. And the first mother fucker in the government that declares war should be smacked because war is never the answer, especially when the people who are gonna get hurt are innocents. and as far the oni's first post goes about them not letting the inspectors into their base, would you let them in? Come one people they aren't just gonna let us step all over them, they have pride too and they dont want any seecrets let out just like we wouldn't. I still and always will stand by my statement, evil is always in the point of view.
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- Mroni
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kthulhu wrote:You are getting it. Let your guilt over being the oppressive white man-beast overwhelm you, and ready yourself for atonement. Because of your white skin, you are always racist to the brown people, who can NEVER be racist, because the white man has kept his foot on the back of the brown people for all eternity, all the way back to the amoeba stage!Mroni wrote:You are right because I am white and a product of the failed experiment by the black scientist Yakub. I was thinking devilish thoughts about killing the brown people and my hero saddamn. I have penis envy so I want to go and kill the gay and handicapped brown youth of Iraq and spread my evil western christian nazi philosophy all over the entire peace loving world because america is the country of war mongering neo fascist white devils.
Mr Oni
Like a cop (read:pig) catching (read:brutalizing) and handcuffing (read:demeaning and damaging self esteem) a "criminal" (read: anyone whose skin is a shade darker than snow white) for "burglarizing" (reading: sticking it to the man and taking back the power!) a house, even though that brown person is really taking back what he has always been denied, namely, his freedom (read: the white man's TV set), so he can pay for his drugs that the white man has him addicted to (and has made illegal so he can beat the brown people without making it look obvious, so that right thinkers like me and everyone who thinks like me can't just complain without looking like whiners. Fight the fascist right wing bias in the media!).
Speaking of drugs, me and my fellow comrade system fighters have lots of reliable evidence, from groups such as The Brown People conspiracy Exposure Group and the Ultra Radical Student System Shakers Union that white doctors immediately addict brown people's babies the minute they come out of the womb, and that the token brown people doctors are stopped or KILLED for trying to prevent this! So every brown person baby is a drug addict because of the white man!
Anyhow, to atone for your racist actions - you can't, unless you were born as a brown person. You could change your skin color, but that's racist blackface! Racist like every white fucker out there! The closest to atonement you can come is to give money to people like me and my comrades to help brown people! You can't give it to the brown people directly because it is condescending! And because they will buy the Evil Drugs that the white doctor man-beasts addicted them to at birth! And buy subscriptions to lots of radical news outlets! Those are the only trustworthy papers, that never disagree with the radical point of view!
White beast creature, atone as best you can!
Can I write one out now my brown brother as I realize I am an evil white devil that by my very existence on this planet enslaves other brothers. I want to join Act up and green peace and dream of a brown planet. Yes I will trust every thing i read in Pravda, High times and the village voice. Only in those publications are the true voices of reason and browness written. I feel so ashamed that I am a devil capitalist male chauvinistic pig I think I shall go tie myself to a nuclear submarine and scream save the puffer fish from white demon oppression.
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Note: I am not in any way trying to defend horrid acts of terrorism and murder. I hate killing, but this is just something that people should take into account.Mroni wrote: For example if you are an Ira (freedom fighter/Terrorist) and you blow up a bus of english school kids you are evil.
What about the people who dropped the bombs that killed the family if the Ira that turned him into an Ira in the first place? Are they evil too? My point is, people don't perform acts of terrorism without a reason, now sometimes its simply greed and power (Bin Laden), which is usually the case with those higher up in the terrorist ranks, but the ones who actually perform the acts are most likely doing it for a reason (like revenge). The best way to fight terrorism is not to condem it as "evil" and just leave it at that. What the US government should be doing is figuring out WHY it is happening, if you stop the reason, then the acts will no longer be commited.
However, if that reason simply turns out to be money and power, in that case terrorists must be dealt with using extreme prejudice. However, something tells me that most of "these people" (as the American media calls them) are NOT doing it for personal gain (With exceptions of course).
The best effects are the ones you don't notice.
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Hmm Maybe we have the balls to get rid of our leaders if we don't like them not let them terrorize the world (remember along time we were ruled by a king). If Iraqi citizens get hurt oh boo hoo we need to stop him before he does something worse. We'll drive him under our treads and let the blood of his nutty followers flow in the streets of baghdad. The republican guard Hah what a joke. All he is in the end is a nobody that got in power by killing tons of people. Powells evidence is more than enough for me. Like I said he's got a way out it takes a man to swallow his pride and admit he's wrong can he be that type of man? I'm willing to bet not.MistyCaldwell wrote:SSJVegita0609 wrote:
War is a terrible thing, I say Bush and Saddam just duke it out in a 1v1 deathmatch.![]()
I haven't been convinced yet either. What they said was highly subjective and hardly rock hard evidence.
I don't have much problem with regime change in Iraq, but I am still not convinced at all the U.S. should be the ones doing it. I also think it should be done under different circumstances to prevent more allies from thinking even worse of us than they already do.
I still wonder if this is some gigantic bluff to scare Saddam out of Iraq. Aren't you supposed to not tell the enemy what you are up to in public? It just feels like a mix of intimidation tactics mixed with political posturing.![]()
If one of the main complaints about Saddam is his treatment of his citizens...then....why would we be doing them a favor by killing them..er liberating them from his tyranny by blowing up their country?
He is a guy who needs to be brought to justice...but unless they go in and only kill him then we are no worse than him. We're using our weapons of war against his people...and that is what Bush doesn't think is right for him to do to us. How are american citizen's lives any different than their citizens lives? I am not talking here about the guys who are supposedly linked to the terrorism. It's like blowing up an innocent person's house to get to a bug that may not even be there anymore.
It's the same crime we say he would do to us. In this country you don't kill someone who might do you harm with your proof being the arms they have. The law says that is murder. Detaining them in another thing altogther.
Mr Oni
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- Mroni
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SSJVegita0609 wrote:Note: I am not in any way trying to defend horrid acts of terrorism and murder. I hate killing, but this is just something that people should take into account.Mroni wrote: For example if you are an Ira (freedom fighter/Terrorist) and you blow up a bus of english school kids you are evil.
What about the people who dropped the bombs that killed the family if the Ira that turned him into an Ira in the first place? Are they evil too? My point is, people don't perform acts of terrorism without a reason, now sometimes its simply greed and power (Bin Laden), which is usually the case with those higher up in the terrorist ranks, but the ones who actually perform the acts are most likely doing it for a reason (like revenge). The best way to fight terrorism is not to condem it as "evil" and just leave it at that. What the US government should be doing is figuring out WHY it is happening, if you stop the reason, then the acts will no longer be commited.
However, if that reason simply turns out to be money and power, in that case terrorists must be dealt with using extreme prejudice. However, something tells me that most of "these people" (as the American media calls them) are NOT doing it for personal gain (With exceptions of course).
You don't know why they are doing it? What creates a radical? Hmm Ok How this you live in a mud house you could not live in a mud house but um that goes against your god that says hey you live in mud house not in something the west will help you make. Now here you are living in one of these refugee camps because your leaders have told you that Accepting help from the devils in isreal or the west is wrong. and you are then told hey if you kill some of these devils and you die doing you can go to eternal paradise with 100 + wives. Hmm lets see live in a rock house filled with shit or eternal paradise hmm. See how that works.
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Hate begets hate, that's all there is to it.
Some fanatic goes and kills someone, that person wants revenge, but since he can't kill the fanatic he kills 4 people who are the same religion/ethnicity as the original killer. Then 4 new people each want to take revenge on 4 other people (16 total) and so on.
I know I could make this a very long, well thought out post (instead of the bare idea) and use the Isreali Palestinian conflict as an example. But I am tired, lazy, and watching Lupin III. So yeah.
Some fanatic goes and kills someone, that person wants revenge, but since he can't kill the fanatic he kills 4 people who are the same religion/ethnicity as the original killer. Then 4 new people each want to take revenge on 4 other people (16 total) and so on.
I know I could make this a very long, well thought out post (instead of the bare idea) and use the Isreali Palestinian conflict as an example. But I am tired, lazy, and watching Lupin III. So yeah.
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jonmartensen wrote:Hate begets hate, that's all there is to it.
Some fanatic goes and kills someone, that person wants revenge, but since he can't kill the fanatic he kills 4 people who are the same religion/ethnicity as the original killer. Then 4 new people each want to take revenge on 4 other people (16 total) and so on.
I know I could make this a very long, well thought out post (instead of the bare idea) and use the Isreali Palestinian conflict as an example. But I am tired, lazy, and watching Lupin III. So yeah.
And watching Lupin 111 is not a bad thing to be doing I can't wait for the next dvd.
Mr oni
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- akatoro
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Don't have much time to write this since I am in school.
I did however, just come back from a meeting where we discussed the U.S foreign politics.
Can I hear your opinion on why Bush openly says that he is ready to go into war to prevent disaster for U.S.
And why isn't that considered as terrorism?
- Because U.S.A can say that they need to catch and put terrorists into justice. Almost like a special reason that the world police-state needs not to get too much of an opposition.
I don't want war and especially not a war in wich America is involved in.
With this gigantic military strength dropping 88.500 tons of bombs over countries (more then what was dropped under ten years in vietnam), shooting enemies that has surrendered "like sitting ducks" and then go out to brag about it in the newspapers when you get home, and changing sides.
-When U.S promised the northern and southern opposition support for going to demonstrate and speak up against the regim in 91, the american government changed sides to help the dictator. Possibly because if the opposition got to do what they wanted with the country - they could claim their oil (for one thing) and cast out the multimillion companies who now makes profit from it. A dictator wouldn't give any money back from oil sold to repair schools and whatnots. He would keep them all and the people in shack.
sucks.. maybe I'll go into further detail later but I must work now.
and don't bother asking for my sources they wouldn't tell you anything anyways. (Ordfront, Rättvise Partiet amongst others)
Bah. I'm going to demonstrate on saturday (15feb)
I did however, just come back from a meeting where we discussed the U.S foreign politics.
Can I hear your opinion on why Bush openly says that he is ready to go into war to prevent disaster for U.S.
And why isn't that considered as terrorism?
- Because U.S.A can say that they need to catch and put terrorists into justice. Almost like a special reason that the world police-state needs not to get too much of an opposition.
I don't want war and especially not a war in wich America is involved in.
With this gigantic military strength dropping 88.500 tons of bombs over countries (more then what was dropped under ten years in vietnam), shooting enemies that has surrendered "like sitting ducks" and then go out to brag about it in the newspapers when you get home, and changing sides.
-When U.S promised the northern and southern opposition support for going to demonstrate and speak up against the regim in 91, the american government changed sides to help the dictator. Possibly because if the opposition got to do what they wanted with the country - they could claim their oil (for one thing) and cast out the multimillion companies who now makes profit from it. A dictator wouldn't give any money back from oil sold to repair schools and whatnots. He would keep them all and the people in shack.
sucks.. maybe I'll go into further detail later but I must work now.
and don't bother asking for my sources they wouldn't tell you anything anyways. (Ordfront, Rättvise Partiet amongst others)
Bah. I'm going to demonstrate on saturday (15feb)
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