anti-pop

starwire · Post by **starwire** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 12:36 am

So typical of this board. Post something that takes more than a minute to read and challenges people's traditional beliefs, are you're accused of being an elitest snob. People don't even read posts like this. They take in the first few sentences, assume they know what the rest is going to read like, as take it as a personal attack on their taste.

Well of course he didn't write all that, you reactionary dipshits. Sure it was cut and paste, but so what?

Ugh...why did Rage Against The Machine have to break up? We need them now more than ever.

KhayotiK · Post by **KhayotiK** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 1:30 am

I do not like you.

Cardinal.jpg · Post by **Cardinal.jpg** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 1:57 am

starwire wrote: Ugh...why did Rage Against The Machine have to break up? We need them now more than ever.

I hear you there, even if their music wasn't as good as I hyped myself up to believe they still fought for something right and that makes them better than most other bands that I listen to.

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 2:15 am

Rage Against The Machine? All they fought for is 1. record profits from uber-left college students and angry suburban youth, and 2. lame socialist revolution that I doubt they truly belive in. Yelling about the man and "advocating" (read:playing to the masses) dismantling society in radical, unworkable ways to build (and horribly fail at doing so) a dreamy utopia that is really just a totalitarian nightmare under a "benevolent" leftist guise is not right or admirable.

The only difference between the far left and the far right is the terminology. Both are equally bad.

And for the record, I'm pretty left myself. But I recognize bad shit when I see it.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 2:20 am

whatever happend to good old surf rock?

starwire · Post by **starwire** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 2:21 am

Cardinal.jpg wrote:I hear you there, even if their music wasn't as good as I hyped myself up to believe they still fought for something right and that makes them better than most other bands that I listen to.

Quite the way I feel. I was never a huge fan but I miss them. After September 11, 2001, we needed a band to step up and say something intelligent about the whole situation, but hardly anyone bothered to, and those that did were ignored in favor of the crappy flag-waving anthems that the American public just ate up in the months that followed. Must make us Americans look pretty stupid to the rest of you...

After RATM, Audioslave seems like a cheap consolation prize.

Cardinal.jpg · Post by **Cardinal.jpg** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 2:46 am

Kthulhu wrote:Rage Against The Machine? All they fought for is 1. record profits from uber-left college students and angry suburban youth, and 2. lame socialist revolution that I doubt they truly belive in. Yelling about the man and "advocating" (read:playing to the masses) dismantling society in radical, unworkable ways to build (and horribly fail at doing so) a dreamy utopia that is really just a totalitarian nightmare under a "benevolent" leftist guise is not right or admirable.

That is way harsh, I suppose being as violent as they are some could see them as BS, but they do fight none the less, even if all they do is create realisation where it was not before then they are still benefitting a greater cause. Eg: Zapatistas in Mexico or the fight for a fair trial of Mumia Abu Jamal. There a few other major causes they reveal through their medium.

Also to say that they work only for record profits is a bit rich. They fired their manager at Sony when poeple found downloading Renegades were banned from Napster. Then Tom worked hard to establish file sharing again. They also held a free concert after they made their stand at Lalapalooza III, not playing any music they then held their concert for all the people who missed out on the day.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 2:49 am

they support file sharing?

Cardinal.jpg · Post by **Cardinal.jpg** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 5:47 am

I'm not sure to what extent but they got real pissed when people couldn't download their album off napster.

Mroni · Post by **Mroni** » Sat Jan 18, 2003 4:53 pm

kthulhu wrote:Rage Against The Machine? All they fought for is 1. record profits from uber-left college students and angry suburban youth, and 2. lame socialist revolution that I doubt they truly belive in. Yelling about the man and "advocating" (read:playing to the masses) dismantling society in radical, unworkable ways to build (and horribly fail at doing so) a dreamy utopia that is really just a totalitarian nightmare under a "benevolent" leftist guise is not right or admirable.

The only difference between the far left and the far right is the terminology. Both are equally bad.

And for the record, I'm pretty left myself. But I recognize bad shit when I see it.

Kthulu=love

Mr Oni
I hate when bands think they have to cater to the left.