When will DVD's be improved upon?

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:14 pm

I want to know DVD players are getting better and better, they are making them MPEG 2 compatable, and some to work with MPEG 4. but what good is that going to do if DVD's arent made in MPEG 2 or 4?
are there ever going to be DVD's encoded in MPEG 2 or 4? if there are then where can I find them? because I would sure as hell like to see some anime DVD's encoded in MPEG 2 or 4 as opposed to MPEG 1.

jbone · Post by **jbone** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:18 pm

Uh... DVDs have always been encoded in MPEG-2 format. It's, like, the standard video format.

Sure, MPEG-1 can be used, but it rarely is.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:24 pm

are you sure? because all of the DVD I own work, but whenever I try to make an SVCD. (which uses mpeg 2) it won't work? I know how to encode things correctly and I have made dozenz of VCD's. but all the SVCD's I make wont work on the DVD player in my living room. Oh, and if all DVDplayers are MPEG 2 compatable then why is it that in the manual that came with my other DVD player say that it can play SVCD's and is MPEG 2 compatable? If MPEG 2 were the norm then it should say that since ALL DVD PLAYERS USE IT! And logicaly if all DVD players use MPEG 2 video then they should all play SVCD's, but they don't.

NicholasDWolfwood · Post by **NicholasDWolfwood** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:28 pm

They all don't play SVCDs because it has a different spec than DVDs.

Anyways, only thing I can think of is that you're not burning a compliant SVCD (480x480 and something like 2520 for bitrate)

MPEG-2 is a DVD. DVD uses something like an 8Mbit spec at 720x480 res.

jbone · Post by **jbone** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:41 pm

SVCD requires a high bitrate (relatively speaking) for a CD. Many DVD players don't support the reading of CDs at above the speed required for VCD or audio CD.

Alternately, many DVD players won't read CD-Rs. CD-RWs are much closer to the composition of DVDs, so if your player won't read a CD-R, you may try using a CD-RW.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:48 pm

no it reads CDR's just fine as I said before,I've made lots of VCD's. all using CD-R's, btw, the bitrate of my vid was 600. so it has nothing to do with the bitrate, it couldn't do SVCD's.

NicholasDWolfwood · Post by **NicholasDWolfwood** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:48 pm

There's your problem. SVCD uses like a 2520kbps bitrate. 600kbps isn't going to confine by the SVCD spec, therefore not play.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:51 pm

well hot damn they are MPEG 2, so now I am back to figuring out why my DVD player refuses adamantly to do SVCD's, and why my other DVD players said that it could do MPEG 2 in the menu when it obdviously didn't need to say that.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:54 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:There's your problem. SVCD uses like a 2520kbps bitrate. 600kbps isn't going to confine by the SVCD spec, therefore not play.

umm, SVCD's and XVCD's can have variable bitrates. I made and XVCD with a bitrate of 2300 in MPEG 1 that played just fine on the DVD player in my other room, but hte one in the LIVING ROOM crapped out.

alternatefutures · Post by **alternatefutures** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 9:13 pm

For the broader question, when the market creates a demand for HD video media then the next generation of discs will begin to emerge.