STOP what you are doing and read my rant.

[Castor Troy]

I would be more surprised if AMV HELL 5 didn't win considering all the packed rooms it filled last year.

Can't fight a name brand.

[Pwolf]

And I never said that the Org was THE community...

I never said you said anything, only that the discussion between you and godix was a contributing factor. The reasoning behind the decision to even discuss it is what bothered me. I'm all for having a larger contest that brings all the communities together, you just better not make the org be the central place that handles it.

I don't know why Nya and I talking about an 'international' contest started this. The very idea of that sort of contest is to be cross community and to draw people together who enjoy the same hobby. Nya and I were disagreeing on some things, but the fact we were having the conversation at all means we both are well aware there is far more to AMVs than just the org.

It didn't start this. As I said, it's a contribution of several factors that span several years. The VCA/JCA banter only made me decide to post something.

What so ironic is the JCAs where created more of like a "protest" against popularity vote of the VCAs. Kind of ironic that now people don't seem to agree with those results as well. wow.

Yes, lets create another contest because people can't accept contest results. we'll just keep doing that every year until we have so many contests it would be impossible for someone to disagree with them all. AMVs were about doing something enjoyable and sharing it with your peers. Winning a contest was just an extra perk. if you lost, you congratulated your peer and tried again next year.

I just want some people from different communities to share with us their best works that we wouldn't have seen otherwise.

Then the russian/french communities should have a larger role in the org community. As I mentioned in my rant, the VCAs/JCAs aren't meant to pick the best video ever created that year, they are meant to recognize those who are active in our community and support it. The VCAs aren't meant to introduce the org to videos from other communities. It may happen but that's not their goal. if the russian/french communities want to see more of their videos in the finalists then they're going to have to be more active here. Plain and simple. The org shouldn't have to bend to their will because they are upset about the VCA results. And the same thing goes for those communities as well. They shouldn't have to bend to our will if the situation was reversed.

If you want a contest that brings out all the best from each community, do what godix and nya want to do: make a new contest that serves that purpose. Just leave the org's VCAs and JCAs alone.

[CodeZTM]

Then the russian/french communities should have a larger role in the org community. As I mentioned in my rant, the VCAs/JCAs aren't meant to pick the best video ever created that year, they are meant to recognize those who are active in our community and support it. The VCAs aren't meant to introduce the org to videos from other communities. It may happen but that's not their goal. if the russian/french communities want to see more of their videos in the finalists then they're going to have to be more active here. Plain and simple. The org shouldn't have to bend to their will because they are upset about the VCA results. And the same thing goes for those communities as well. They shouldn't have to bend to our will if the situation was reversed.

I agree with you to the point where the Russian/French editors need to get more involved. Like I said, we shouldn't be expected to wade through the internet looking for videos that they didn't want to share with us.

That being said, I still don't see why having some foreign presence in the JCAs would cause any harm. We have foreign editors that stick to almost exclusively a-m-v.org, but also have great AMVs from their own nations to share with us. Do we need to go arm in arm and create the ultimate international contest? No. We just need to share the greatest AMVs. AT least that's my philosophy behind the purpose of these contests.

[Vlad G Pohnert]

Well, Ironically as the person who runs the most AMV rooms and tries to profile as many AMVs as possible from all over, it sometime is not easy looking around the entire community to find those that might be missing here and there...

I think the point of the org was to have one big DB of all AMVs out there which would really be a HUG help when it comes to finding vidos.. that's one aspect that that the org is about.

Now the forums are a whole different thing and don't necessarily reflect the entire AMV community nor do they need to

Vlad

[TritioAFB]

I consider myself part of the russian community and yes, I agree with the fact that russian people needs to get involved more, but in a way I consider the language an excuse of why russian editors rarely come here. Or imagine the opposite case, you as an english speaker in the russian community. Even I as a foreign editor in the russian community and I talk with the people as I do in the org, and I don´t have any problem with the crowd.

[hasteroth]

1. expect certain contest results
2. get worked up over contest results
3. question validity of contest
4. get into a big argument about the contest
5. get worked up over argument
6. vent anger
7. face consequences
8. ????

[Vlad G Pohnert]

Fixed

1. expect certain contest results
2. get worked up over contest results
3. question validity of contest
4. get into a big argument about the contest
5. get worked up over argument
6. vent anger
7. face consequences
8. Get a Nice Letter from layers banning you form the con (hey, it's happened!)

[hasteroth]

Fixed

1. expect certain contest results
2. get worked up over contest results
3. question validity of contest
4. get into a big argument about the contest
5. get worked up over argument
6. vent anger
7. face consequences
8. Get a Nice Letter from layers banning you form the con (hey, it's happened!)

do you mean lawyers? I spent about half a minute trying to figure out what "layers" was.

[Vlad G Pohnert]

There... FIXED

Fixed

1. expect certain contest results
2. get worked up over contest results
3. question validity of contest
4. get into a big argument about the contest
5. get worked up over argument
6. vent anger
7. face consequences
8. Get a Nice Letter from lawyers banning you form the con (hey, it's happened!)

do you mean lawyers? I spent about half a minute trying to figure out what "layers" was.

[hasteroth]

"form"

>> just sayin