Is it wrong to copy an idea to edit it better?

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Re: Is it wrong to copy an idea to edit it better?

Post by ExSphere » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:41 pm

Who cares about once scene. Just steal the whole person video and make it better. :arrow:
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Re: Is it wrong to copy an idea to edit it better?

Post by TritioAFB » Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:05 pm

Castor Troy wrote:
lokitocatracho wrote:There's no problem. That's like the use of effects. Just because I used an effect doesnt mean that nobody else can use it too. In the same way, scenes from animes in amvs can't be owned by anybody.

Crow, what about extending an incomplete amv from an editor?
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Re: Is it wrong to copy an idea to edit it better?

Post by Sephiroth » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:13 am

Its funny to hear people mention Ermac still. I mean yea he did wright the one guide with AD but i guess if you retire at the height of your popularity people will keep talking about you like your some sort of phantom.

I do say if you can do better then by all means do the video but don't be surprised if it gets compared to the other one.

I had a few diners with Ermac he was a amv editor like a lot of the other ones ive met. I even think i briefly remember meeting Kevin Caldwell at ax 2000/2001 (whenever was his last year) and yes he was a normal human being.

But hey i don't think we've seen the last of Ermac he's still arguably a part of this community (though i remember him not showing up to the AMV creators panel at AX one year cause he was playing WOW)

and something else.....

and just to fan the flames of conspiracy a bit

Ermacs retirement
2004.07.28

World of Warcraft released
November 23, 2004

Coincidence or something more?

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Re: Is it wrong to copy an idea to edit it better?

Post by EvaFan » Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:30 am

If I said yes would that stop you/others from doing it?
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Re: Is it wrong to copy an idea to edit it better?

Post by Castor Troy » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:47 pm

Sephiroth wrote:Its funny to hear people mention Ermac still. I mean yea he did wright the one guide with AD but i guess if you retire at the height of your popularity people will keep talking about you like your some sort of phantom.

I do say if you can do better then by all means do the video but don't be surprised if it gets compared to the other one.

I had a few diners with Ermac he was a amv editor like a lot of the other ones ive met. I even think i briefly remember meeting Kevin Caldwell at ax 2000/2001 (whenever was his last year) and yes he was a normal human being.

But hey i don't think we've seen the last of Ermac he's still arguably a part of this community (though i remember him not showing up to the AMV creators panel at AX one year cause he was playing WOW)

and something else.....

and just to fan the flames of conspiracy a bit

Ermacs retirement
2004.07.28

World of Warcraft released
November 23, 2004

Coincidence or something more?
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Re: Is it wrong to copy an idea to edit it better?

Post by TEKnician » Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:59 am

Dr.Dinosaur wrote:Hey dude,
don't be too sad
take a bad vid
and make it better.

Remember to cut it at the right part,
and then you will start
to edit better.
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Re: Is it wrong to copy an idea to edit it better?

Post by McDirty » Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:08 am

It's not wrong to use other people's vids. It's been done before:

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Re: Is it wrong to copy an idea to edit it better?

Post by 8bit_samurai » Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:02 am

I thought about making Fundamitternachtum into an actual AMV, but the problem is I only have a third of the sources atm.
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Re: Is it wrong to copy an idea to edit it better?

Post by dreamawake » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:07 am

The_TEKnician wrote:
Dr.Dinosaur wrote:Hey dude,
don't be too sad
take a bad vid
and make it better.

Remember to cut it at the right part,
and then you will start
to edit better.
In the store I work at, they've been playing The Beatles ever since they came out on iTunes. I work full-time 8 hours a day.

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Re: Is it wrong to copy an idea to edit it better?

Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:06 pm

Niotex wrote:If you're going to rip someone off at least give them credit for the original idea. And if possible ask for their permission, that is all.
well, technically as mentioned I dont know of too many creators that ask permission from the original artists that made the source material we use so it's kind of a moot point there in that sence.. However giving them credit is not a bad idea as most do techncially list sources or music used in the AMV...

I personally like to ask anyways, but all I'm saying is that techncially we rip and don't ask for the original footage so it's hard to really comment on the ethics on using someoen else footage from an AMV

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