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I could possibly see the use of smaller suits but nothing to big. I agree that gundams would just be redundant.
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- Wykith
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Bipedal war machines are a brainchild of fiction. In an actual combat enviroment they would be grossly inadequate. Robotics is the future of warfare however. Perhaps a hybrid between the tank and Mecha.
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- Gaikotsu
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If they, (bipedal mecha), ever were feasible, then they would likely fill the role that they play in Gasaraki. They'd probably see a lot of action in urban warfare, and maybe also serve as support units on the open battlefield.
By the way the "synthetic muscles" used in Gasaraki aren't that far off from reality. I remember seeing a show about robotics on the Discovery channel a few years back, and this is one of the topics they touched upon. They even showed a working, albeit primitive mechanical leg which used this technology. Cool, huh?
By the way the "synthetic muscles" used in Gasaraki aren't that far off from reality. I remember seeing a show about robotics on the Discovery channel a few years back, and this is one of the topics they touched upon. They even showed a working, albeit primitive mechanical leg which used this technology. Cool, huh?
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Well it depends on how you define mech. the CIA has successfully used drones in combat, and in the future we are probably going to see more and more autonomous drones on the battlefield . For those of you who have seen Minority report, imagine 2-300,000 "Spiders" crawling over the battlefield acting as one unit.
As for traditional mechs, its a little more problamatic. As has been mentioned, Gundam and Eva sized mech are pretty much impossible to build. If u double the size of an object, u quadruple its mass, so a mech the size of an eva would break its own legs.
Another problem with mechs is the fact that walking on two legs is very, very hard. The most advanced walking robots today can climb stares and thats about it. If we are going to see walking mechs in the armies of the future they would have to be able to outperform other forms of transportation, namely tracked and wheeled vehicled. Modern tanks can go 45mph, and many wheeled APCs can go over 70.
Now, in the future we may see small walking mechs that are an extension of ourselves, more of a powersuit, or an exoskeleton. In fact DARPA is working on this project right now
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As for traditional mechs, its a little more problamatic. As has been mentioned, Gundam and Eva sized mech are pretty much impossible to build. If u double the size of an object, u quadruple its mass, so a mech the size of an eva would break its own legs.
Another problem with mechs is the fact that walking on two legs is very, very hard. The most advanced walking robots today can climb stares and thats about it. If we are going to see walking mechs in the armies of the future they would have to be able to outperform other forms of transportation, namely tracked and wheeled vehicled. Modern tanks can go 45mph, and many wheeled APCs can go over 70.
Now, in the future we may see small walking mechs that are an extension of ourselves, more of a powersuit, or an exoskeleton. In fact DARPA is working on this project right now

DARPA is also working on other cool projects like Brain Machine interface
and morphing aircraft
-Metro
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Seriously though, if we as a species can think of it, then chances are that we will be able to do it somewhere down the line. Whether it happens 5, 20, or 100+ years down the line, I wouldn't be surprised if there was anything the human race couldn't eventually accomplish if we truly put all our effort into it.
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Let's not forget natural human Evolution. The more we learn to use more than 11% of our brains, the more feats we will eventually manage to accomplish.....now......to read the X-file.Gaikotsu wrote:That's some pretty amazing stuff. For some reason I feel like I'm going to be assassinated X-Files style just for looking at it.
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Seriously though, if we as a species can think of it, then chances are that we will be able to do it somewhere down the line. Whether it happens 5, 20, or 100+ years down the line, I wouldn't be surprised if there was anything the human race couldn't eventually accomplish if we truly put all our effort into it.
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- KenShimazu
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Ever the sci fi junky that i am, i kinda disagree about the Gundam's not being feazable.
granted our bi-pedal technology would need to improve 10 fold for anything of that like to see the field, power source is not really a problem (considering all Gundams are Nuclear powered... just make sure to wear a radiation suit)
actually scratch that, the tech tree humanity would need to follow to create a successful mech that size would be pretty long. Shock absorbers, energy efficient conducters (to counter excess power loss) auto targeting, etc etc etc
my personal view point, we'd probably be able to build a Zaku 1 prototype with the technology we have now, just don't expect it to move faster then 20mph hehe ^^.
overall though, i perosnally think the other Mech people tend to forget would be possible
Votom's whatevertheheckthey'recalled. fast light armored suits more then probably (and it doesn't exactly walk, more like ski's...)
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granted our bi-pedal technology would need to improve 10 fold for anything of that like to see the field, power source is not really a problem (considering all Gundams are Nuclear powered... just make sure to wear a radiation suit)
actually scratch that, the tech tree humanity would need to follow to create a successful mech that size would be pretty long. Shock absorbers, energy efficient conducters (to counter excess power loss) auto targeting, etc etc etc
my personal view point, we'd probably be able to build a Zaku 1 prototype with the technology we have now, just don't expect it to move faster then 20mph hehe ^^.
overall though, i perosnally think the other Mech people tend to forget would be possible
Votom's whatevertheheckthey'recalled. fast light armored suits more then probably (and it doesn't exactly walk, more like ski's...)
anyhoot my two yen
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What seems to be in agreement is that small suits (like DARPA's exoskeletons) are the most feasible for a real-life application.
That means more stuff on the level of MADOX-01 and Starship Troopers (the book or anime, not the excreta that masqueraded as a movie), with Votoms, Gasaraki or Blue Gender as an extreme end of it.
That means more stuff on the level of MADOX-01 and Starship Troopers (the book or anime, not the excreta that masqueraded as a movie), with Votoms, Gasaraki or Blue Gender as an extreme end of it.
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I definately don't see it as being an impossibility. I believe it isn't too far off either. As it showed on the exoskeleton its not a technology we don't poses. I think the problem is a lack of funding and a lack of war.
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