Grave of the Fireflies.

[jonmartensen]

And yet another chapter for the book of "UncleMilo Hates Mr. Oni".

You damn uber-conservative Mr. Oni *shakes fist* You have a point about the movie (fireboming, A-bomb was dropped before the end of the war) but don't say it's "japs trying to make themselves look like they were victims." It's about the horrors of war, not the Japanese personal horror. Many US war movies (Saving Private Ryan for a good example, though not about Japan while Pearl Harbor was) are like that.

[CaTaClYsM]

I can see where Mr Oni is comming from where he would think that this would be a form of propoganda, and I think you are going a tad overboard with those statements milo. But don't start writing a letter about me, because I am not finished yet.

What you failed to overlook Mr Oni, is that what happened to the children in the movie was not the fault of the US as much as it was themselves, if the boy could have just swallowed his pride and stayed with his aunt (despite the horrible person she was.) His sister could have still lived. And the other thing that noone has pointed out yet was that this was based on a book that was wrtien by a man who lived these very experiences. Yes, it was based on a true story.

(if it was pointed out before I am sorry for missing it.)

Don't believe me? here is a link to Roger Ebers review
here

[CaTaClYsM]

PS, As much as you are angered by Mr. Oni, Milo, if you are going to make a nice long page to flame him, you may want to leave out the statements about how he is not worth discusion.

It's almost the same thing as someone creating a speech about how he/she doesn't talk.

Don't get the wrong idea, I'm just pointiing it out.

[Aetherfukz]

None of you watched the fucking movie or you would see the freakin tons of napalm being dropped and the homes catching fire. The A bomb was dropped by 1 plane not a sky full of them. If you guys want to be ignorant about history go right ahead that is truly what is wrong with this country. The little girl did die of malnutrition not radioactive sickness you all a bunch of tards are what. Watch the damned movie.

I watched the movie, and I saw those napalm bombs. But there was clearly one A-Bomb, too! It's true that 1 plane dropped it, not a sky full of them. But is it more harmless therefore? No! One Nuclear Bomb with let's say the MT of the Hiroshima bomb could and CAN wipe out a whole landscape!

And you don't call me ignorant when it comes to history. I know a lot more about it then you probably do, little fool. "That's truely what is wrong with this country". You say it. It is wrong about America that most of the people think war is a good and rightous thing. I am from Austria, people aren't much better here, but they've changed over time.
Like I said in a post before, noone can win a war. True, the axis were the "bad guys" in the world war II scenario. But that doesn't make the USA the "good guys" therefore.

War IS always cruel. The men who fight it, are trained for it, and maybe prepared to die on the very battlefield itself (as far as one can be prepared for death though...). But when it comes to dropping bombs on cities, there is no excuse for something like it. I mean, those people are/were innocent. They had nothing to do with war. They just wanted to live their lifes as far as they could.

I saw a documentation about the bombing of Dresden (Germany) in WWII about 4 times. And everytime I watched it, I got a shiver down my spine. You can't imagine such things. You saw a helicopter-like view of the city, and the whole image was burning. Not like a fire that burn. It burned like hell!

But I imagine you can't follow me all the way with your little mind which can't get out of its 4-wall boundaries. You are a person which never will be able to step out of its own shadow, therefore you are the ignorant, not us!

Peace out,
~Aetherfukz

[Mroni]

None of you watched the fucking movie or you would see the freakin tons of napalm being dropped and the homes catching fire. The A bomb was dropped by 1 plane not a sky full of them. If you guys want to be ignorant about history go right ahead that is truly what is wrong with this country. The little girl did die of malnutrition not radioactive sickness you all a bunch of tards are what. Watch the damned movie.

I watched the movie, and I saw those napalm bombs. But there was clearly one A-Bomb, too! It's true that 1 plane dropped it, not a sky full of them. But is it more harmless therefore? No! One Nuclear Bomb with let's say the MT of the Hiroshima bomb could and CAN wipe out a whole landscape!

And you don't call me ignorant when it comes to history. I know a lot more about it then you probably do, little fool. "That's truely what is wrong with this country". You say it. It is wrong about America that most of the people think war is a good and rightous thing. I am from Austria, people aren't much better here, but they've changed over time.
Like I said in a post before, noone can win a war. True, the axis were the "bad guys" in the world war II scenario. But that doesn't make the USA the "good guys" therefore.

War IS always cruel. The men who fight it, are trained for it, and maybe prepared to die on the very battlefield itself (as far as one can be prepared for death though...). But when it comes to dropping bombs on cities, there is no excuse for something like it. I mean, those people are/were innocent. They had nothing to do with war. They just wanted to live their lifes as far as they could.

I saw a documentation about the bombing of Dresden (Germany) in WWII about 4 times. And everytime I watched it, I got a shiver down my spine. You can't imagine such things. You saw a helicopter-like view of the city, and the whole image was burning. Not like a fire that burn. It burned like hell!

But I imagine you can't follow me all the way with your little mind which can't get out of its 4-wall boundaries. You are a person which never will be able to step out of its own shadow, therefore you are the ignorant, not us!

Peace out,
~Aetherfukz

Apperently you don't . The usa was the good guys in world war 2 moron only a retard would argue that. Our standing army was dick before world war 2 the soldiers sent to fight were all new recruits not professional killers. They had a job to do and they did it because Germany and japan started a war. Like I said before if you start a war you better be able to finish it. The british bombed Dresden yes it was horrible. But waaaahh war is hell. Dresden is a german city so it got what it deserved. Do you have a concept of justice? If somebody malicously killed your brother for no reason what would you do? Re the Germans and the japanese in word war 2 murderous bloodthirsty bastards. The russians weren't much better but Germany attacked them not vice versa.


Mr Oni

[Mroni]

And yet another chapter for the book of "UncleMilo Hates Mr. Oni".

You damn uber-conservative Mr. Oni *shakes fist* You have a point about the movie (fireboming, A-bomb was dropped before the end of the war) but don't say it's "japs trying to make themselves look like they were victims." It's about the horrors of war, not the Japanese personal horror. Many US war movies (Saving Private Ryan for a good example, though not about Japan while Pearl Harbor was) are like that.

The difference is Jon is that we americans don't have years of guilt about a war we lost. If miya.... Wanted to make a movie about the horrors of war maybe the rape of Nanking would have been a better subject matter. Japanese textbooks were in the news a couple of years ago because they still called forced korean workers guests. And said that korea asked to become part of japan. Gotf is an ok movie but if I wanted a movie on the horrors of war I recommend All quiet on the western front.


Mr Oni

[Aetherfukz]

True it is, Germany and Japan had both done terrible things to prisoners and the likes. But so did the USA after they intervened in the war, too! Sure, the german KZs were the most cruel things one could imagine back then. But the Americans did almost the same thing to german/japanese prisoners, too. They tortured them to death, and many other things I don't feel to tell right now.

Anyway, I think you don't get my point. I said that war is brutal and cruel and like waaaggh! But you have to differ between the people that fight a war and the people that suffer from it. Like it was with the american bombardement of Afghanistan. Maybe they hit a few so-called terrorists, but most of the bombing victims sure were innocent people, women, children and the likes.

And I don't wanna praise Germany or what Hitler did. I hate that part of our history the most. Hitler was insane!
But there is nothing good at war. You can't justify the death of millions of people (like in Dresden) with just saying "OK. They were bastards!". The people of Dresden, Hiroshima, and all the other bombing targets were innocent. Punktum. Hitler was insane, and truely deserved death, as did the Nazis. But those people didn't!

Peace out,
~Aetherfukz

[Mroni]

I like how you can write a book about how much you hate me dang.

I would never be able to get to that part... I would be too busy writing about all the people you hate.

Every post I come across you is
I hate these people
I hate those people

It would take me so long to write about all the people you hate and all the people who don't meet with your narrow little brain-dead view of the world that I would never get to the part about how sadly pathetic you are as a human being.

I mean... you mention how much you want to shoot me in the head
you talk about all these people you wish were dead
you speak of all the hate you have of people of foriegn race
and now you write how you have no sympathy for children who die. After all... they were dumb enough to live in a country where the leaders started a foolish war.

You are a fucking jewel in the fabric of humanity, aren't you?

I mean... I don't have to write a thing, because I have stumbled across your empty headed, hate-filled posts ever since I came on to this board.

I don't feel the need to even discuss things with you, because your hideous views on... well... everything... are so infantile that it just gives me a headache bashing my head against that brickpile where your brains should be.

You aren't worth discussion.

Your character has been painted by posts you have made over the months and I see it as shallow and empty.

You are not deserving of anything but my contempt and my hostility.

I certainly don't seek you out, but whenever I encounter ignorance and repugnance on the level that you vomit out on these forums, you will get this same kind of response.


Oh... and just to feed you some information...

You can't call me a liberal in one post and a facist in the other. The two are about as far apart as can be... not that you know what either really means anyway

Also - I don't just cut off anyone I disagree with and just insult them for not agreeing with me. I do that to you, because, as I mentioned before, I find your attitudes so repellant that you are not worth discussion.

Finally... given your own hate-filled comments on homosexuality, I urge you not post that you love me... your gay-bashing pals might get the wrong idea.

-Uncle Milo

Ok I am going to try to answer this post although I don't really know why you aren't going to respond you have a bad habit of dissapearing after you get done crying. I have listed all the people I hate have you? I think most of my posts on this board are about me hand loving myself not hating. Um ok and now you are accusing me of being racist BULLSHIT I'm just not an uptight ass like you. As for homosexuality I don't like it I don't have to I just have to tolerate it(99% of the time I just totatlly ignore it). That probably offends a Homosexual like yourself that crys himselfs to sleep at night. In this country the word liberal and facist are the same. Both types want to enforce what they think best on other people. You are that type of person Milo I feel sorry for you because how can you live worried about what other people do so much? You need to go take a nice long vacation and get away from Politics they warp your mind and make you everything you say you hate. You know what you are just like me on this forum a bunch of 1s and 0s floating around. Please if you do not like what I write don't respond to them anymore.


Mr Oni

[Mroni]

I like how you can write a book about how much you hate me dang.

I would never be able to get to that part... I would be too busy writing about all the people you hate.

Every post I come across you is
I hate these people
I hate those people

It would take me so long to write about all the people you hate and all the people who don't meet with your narrow little brain-dead view of the world that I would never get to the part about how sadly pathetic you are as a human being.

I mean... you mention how much you want to shoot me in the head
you talk about all these people you wish were dead
You are a fucking jewel in the fabric of humanity, aren't you?

Ok Yes I am a jewel in the septic tank of humanity what of it? Your a poet and you didn't know it. To set the record straight Milo it is so obvious what I posted wasn't meant to be taken literally that you are a retard if you think it was. I can't remember exactly But I wrote in my journal "Put a bullet in uncle milo's head vote republican!" Not track down uncle milo and shoot him in the head and then vote repulican and upchuck on uncle milos dead festering corpse. So you really need to get over that ok?

Mr Oni

[Mroni]

True it is, Germany and Japan had both done terrible things to prisoners and the likes. But so did the USA after they intervened in the war, too! Sure, the german KZs were the most cruel things one could imagine back then. But the Americans did almost the same thing to german/japanese prisoners, too. They tortured them to death, and many other things I don't feel to tell right now.

Anyway, I think you don't get my point. I said that war is brutal and cruel and like waaaggh! But you have to differ between the people that fight a war and the people that suffer from it. Like it was with the american bombardement of Afghanistan. Maybe they hit a few so-called terrorists, but most of the bombing victims sure were innocent people, women, children and the likes.

And I don't wanna praise Germany or what Hitler did. I hate that part of our history the most. Hitler was insane!
But there is nothing good at war. You can't justify the death of millions of people (like in Dresden) with just saying "OK. They were bastards!". The people of Dresden, Hiroshima, and all the other bombing targets were innocent. Punktum. Hitler was insane, and truely deserved death, as did the Nazis. But those people didn't!

Peace out,
~Aetherfukz

Like I said you start a war you got to expect consequences I'm not saying an american never tortured a prisoner of war. But very little just as the germans also did the same they followed the geneva convention pretty well too. The japanese on the other hand withdrew from the geneva convention and did hideous things to prisoners of war. This is not excusing the Germans they just did their experiments on non combatants. I don't think we did anything Innapropriate in afghanistan that country doesen't have any form of stability and how else do you propose we fight terrorist? War is hell people are going to die.

Mr Oni