Musing on the community by OtakuGray

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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Post by Nya-chan Production » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:22 pm

CodeZTM wrote:I AM LURKING behind you.
Stop it, dammit! D:

(other than that I agree with the whole post)
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Post by competitionbros » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:23 pm

kickass331 wrote:basically, the org is an internet forum with the normal kinds of forum members. 0~0

Exactly. I think a problem is that being an anime editor is such a niche hobby that people expect to be instantly accepted regardless of their attitude.
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Post by gotegenks » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:01 pm

Mastamind wrote:The irony of it is that OtakuGay is a newbie
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Post by aerotem » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:11 pm

godix wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote:Now it is from my experience that most of the people here don't sugar coat things. They may even come off as jerks at times, though it seems to me it's unintentional.
Unintentional? It takes effort to be this much of a jerk. In fact I'm the best jerk ever! But do you guys care? Nooo. You just dismissing all the hard work I put into this. Oh wah. It isn't perfect quality because I'm not a fucking perfectionist. I'm SO sorry. Next time I'll just scrap all text and let you guess WTF was going on. You guys take this hobby too seriously. My normal followers on youtube LAUGH at this. I don't want that reaction, I want people to be angry or sad. You guys never say anything about me being a jerk except pointless details that everyone already knew. Understand that I don't go for quality, I am more focused on the idea and getting it from my head to my computer screen. Go get lives people.
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Post by BasharOfTheAges » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:12 pm

competitionbros wrote:
kickass331 wrote:basically, the org is an internet forum with the normal kinds of forum members. 0~0

Exactly. I think a problem is that being an anime editor is such a niche hobby that people expect to be instantly accepted regardless of their attitude.
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Post by OtakuGray » Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:19 pm

You are not your video, just because someone says something bad about your video that doesn't mean they are attacking you personally. (General statement - it seems sometimes people forget this.)
Then how come everytime i make something thats negative..someone has to go "IS THIS BECAUSE OF HEART WARMING?" :awesome:

Its stupid. It really is. I made a bad vid. We ALL have them.
godix wrote:Like this one amv. It was all like woosh, zoom with effects. And I was all like whoa awesome. Then that guitar thingies popped up and went dun dun DUN dun then those box thingies went zooming by and twirling around and shit. Oh god, then the hexagons popped up and I was like 'I just got a stiffie'. Then there was the circle with those thingies going around and I blew my load.
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Post by OtakuGray » Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:25 pm

ngsilver wrote:
OtakuGray's Journa from 2010-07-25 l wrote: A Rant on the Anime Music Video and Anime Communities 2010-07-25 12:45:29 This is a very long and detailed rant on the problems and issues that go on with our community. If you would please read this long rant, i would be very appreciative. The opinions in this rant are not made to offend and are not targeted at anyone unless they are named.

Also, you will need Microsoft Word or Open Office to read this.

THE RANT//
http://www.mediafire.com/?592aehieod9zf56

Again, please read and comment on what your thoughts are. I would be very greatful :)
Did you not realize that the journal system was public? If you didn't want this to be aired public-ally to the org or didn't want people to discuss it then why did you post it and ask for comments?

Alright. i wanted people to read my rant. its true. But i didnt want it to be edited and reviewed without my permission. That was just rude. He could have asked me. I would have let him post it probably, although perhaps in a more polite manner.
godix wrote:Like this one amv. It was all like woosh, zoom with effects. And I was all like whoa awesome. Then that guitar thingies popped up and went dun dun DUN dun then those box thingies went zooming by and twirling around and shit. Oh god, then the hexagons popped up and I was like 'I just got a stiffie'. Then there was the circle with those thingies going around and I blew my load.
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Post by Taite » Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:36 pm

OtakuGray wrote:Then how come everytime i make something thats negative..someone has to go "IS THIS BECAUSE OF HEART WARMING?" :awesome:

Its stupid. It really is. I made a bad vid. We ALL have them.
The only reason why you feel like you are being attacked personally is because you blew up when I gave you my crit, and then everything was then directed toward you instead of the video.
And when did you make something "negative" since that video? On the org, no one has said anything like that.
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Post by gotegenks » Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:56 pm

OtakuGray wrote:Publish Rant
Want publicity
Want comments
Get publicity
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Post by JaddziaDax » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:10 pm

OtakuGray wrote:
You are not your video, just because someone says something bad about your video that doesn't mean they are attacking you personally. (General statement - it seems sometimes people forget this.)
Then how come everytime i make something thats negative..someone has to go "IS THIS BECAUSE OF HEART WARMING?" :awesome:
Its stupid. It really is. I made a bad vid. We ALL have them.
What do you mean "make something that's negative"? you mean like the rant?

I equated your writing to that video's announcement because of the way the thread played out pretty much mirrored the attitude of the rant. You acted as though you were being personally attacked when people pointed out flaws in your video, and that is very reflective of some of the statements you made.

Yes people make bad videos all the time, that is not what got the attention placed on your thread though. Your reaction to negative feedback was what got everyone interested in reading your thread and wanting to make their own comments. (Sometimes people think: "It can't be as bad as they are saying" then watch it and feel the need to throw in their two cents.)

If instead of acting though as you were being personally attacked you could have asked questions as to why people thought the things they did, or ask them to elaborate that way they would give you the constructive side of their criticism.

I can't speak for others, but I'm sure some have had the same experiences as me. I've been annoyed by leaving people long elaborate opinions at times, that it's just easier to be short and to the point. It's annoying to take your time to write out a long detailed opinion only to have it ignored or thrown back in your face with an "I'm not perfect!!!"

So the way I handle it is that I point out maybe the one thing I think could use the most work, and see if the person wishes me to elaborate on it. If they do, then I give them more info (including ways of fixing the problems). If they throw a fit and yell and scream or ignore me I usually find it's not worth my time to even bother giving them anymore info.

After seeing your thread, I figured I wouldn't add to the chaos, and really you didn't seem open to learning so commenting didn't seem worth my time. No one is expecting you to be perfect. In fact I bet most people would rather see you improve that way there's less crappy amvs out there and more good ones.

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