Fuckin' Youtubers...

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This entire conversation happened because I disagreed with a use of watermarks on some Youtuber "Khameleon808"'s video, and quite frankly it's pretty disgusting.

[3:14:48 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: Hello! Please add me to your Contact list.
[3:14:48 PM] Matt: Matt has shared contact details with Dashboard Sandwiches.
[3:18:51 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: whats yer deal
[3:19:20 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: you rally up atari to flame me about my watermarks on my page at the same time . for what?
[3:19:36 PM] Matt: No...? She showed me that shit
[3:19:53 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: so then what, you felt compelled to follow her lead by talkin shit?
[3:20:33 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: first of all i didnt ask either of you two to watch my shit after segment 2 got made and you had all that "creative input" so why would you take it upon yourself to open another can of worms 3 months later?
[3:21:31 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: you see me comin to yoru fuckin page and pointing out all the flaws in your fucking editing
[3:21:31 PM] Matt: It's not opening a can of worms, it's having an opinion....the internets not hard man, if you post shit, people watch it
[3:21:37 PM] Matt: If you dont like it, remove it and block it
[3:21:43 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: you probably dont give a fuck about watermarks cause no one has bothered to steal your fuckin videos
[3:21:47 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and why is that?
[3:21:56 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: nah
[3:22:00 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: i didnt post shit and you watched it
[3:22:05 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: some bitch showed it to you again
[3:22:10 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: you both probbaly talked shit
[3:22:13 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: about the watermark
[3:22:16 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and posted at the same time
[3:22:27 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: its not an "opinion" its a coordinated spam
[3:22:36 PM] Matt: Whatever helps you sleep at night bro
[3:22:42 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: oh dont worry
[3:22:51 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: i got something in the works to make me sleep better at night for your page
[3:23:23 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: see i happen to know you dont have permission from the artists for your shitty videos
[3:23:39 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and i can fast track all your videos off your shit
[3:23:46 PM] Matt: Go for it
[3:23:49 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: so if you wanna be a bitch about it
[3:24:08 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: jealous n shit cause it got 17k views in over a week
[3:24:16 PM] Matt: That's probably it
[3:24:16 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and all yof yorus combined cant pull that in
[3:24:17 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: yeah
[3:24:20 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: it probably is
[3:24:27 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: you dont even have a studio you are affilated with
[3:24:32 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: cause youa re too big of a pussy
[3:24:34 PM] Matt: Oh no, what will I do
[3:24:42 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: probably what you have been doing
[3:24:47 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: hating on peoples videos at random
[3:25:01 PM] Matt: Not at random, just the ones I disagree with aesthetically
[3:25:18 PM] Matt: Personally I think you've got a great video there
[3:25:28 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: wel im sorry if your small ass brain cant make room for logical reasons for the watermarks on the UNFINISHED work
[3:25:51 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: they wont be there in final but you'd know that if you read anything
[3:25:57 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and not just flamed where you are pointed to
[3:26:03 PM] Matt: K
[3:26:22 PM] Matt: Well happy editing bro, always a pleasure
[3:26:34 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: no need to block your name, just dont comment on my page again
[3:26:38 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: i dont care who shows it to ya
[3:26:46 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: thnk you can handle that?
[3:27:07 PM] Matt: I'll comment on it if I feel like it's worth my time to do so
[3:27:24 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: oh so bitching about my watermark was worth your time?
[3:27:25 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: lmao
[3:27:31 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: you must not have shit goin on in your life then
[3:27:40 PM] Matt: And won't be told what to do by some conceited internet bully who can't take one comment without threatening someone in return
[3:27:47 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: its not one comment
[3:27:52 PM] Matt: No, it is
[3:27:53 PM] Matt: Two tops
[3:27:56 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: it was 2 little pussies
[3:27:57 PM] Matt: But that's basically it
[3:27:59 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: who just couldnt handle it
[3:27:59 PM] Matt: It'll be okay
[3:28:03 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: enough to make a post
[3:28:08 PM] Matt: Kham...shhhhh
[3:28:09 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: dont act like it was some innocent opinion
[3:28:10 PM] Matt: Shhhh
[3:28:16 PM] Matt: Shhhhhhhhhhh
[3:28:17 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: you came for the express purpose of just talkin shit
[3:28:20 PM] Matt: It'll be k
[3:28:30 PM] Matt: Which is totally different from what you're doing now
[3:28:31 PM] Matt: Shhhh
[3:28:33 PM] Matt: Itll be k
[3:28:38 PM] Matt: Kham, shhhhh
[3:28:44 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and im not one of your little cartoon watchin buddies that is just gonna be like " OH THATS JUST MATT, HE'LL BE OK"
[3:28:48 PM] Matt: Teh internet loves ur video
[3:28:50 PM] Matt: it's k
[3:28:53 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: i know they do
[3:29:07 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: in fact the band has even optioned my video for the tron trailer to disney
[3:29:13 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: wtf have you done with yoru editing
[3:29:14 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: not shit
[3:29:16 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: thats what
[3:29:20 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: its a fuckin hobby for you kid
[3:29:25 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: so stick to your own
[3:29:32 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: talentless fuck
[3:29:56 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: yeah
[3:29:59 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: type something witty
[3:29:59 PM] Matt: You're a disgrace to vidders, and I'm pretty sure most people would agree
[3:30:03 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: yeah
[3:30:05 PM] Matt: This shit right here
[3:30:05 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: i can tell that
[3:30:07 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: by my fans
[3:30:07 PM] Matt: is disgraceful
[3:30:14 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: nah im just putting a little angry kid in check
[3:30:16 PM] Matt: because you can't handle one comment
[3:30:18 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: cause he cant resist the urge
[3:30:19 PM] Matt: about a watermark
[3:30:19 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: to hate on my work
[3:30:39 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: i could take the comment if it was just you that was motivated to find it and comment on it
[3:30:39 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: but it wasnt
[3:30:53 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: you were showed the video and probably there was a discussion about how the watermark "sucked"
[3:31:03 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and THATS what prompted you to write your two cents
[3:31:18 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: if you look at the posts ive already addressed other comments aobut the watermark with NO problems
[3:31:44 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: its only when it comes from some hothead little anime nerd like you, that it stands apart from the average innocent suggestion
[3:31:55 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and more represents itself as just a flame opportunity
[3:32:07 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: you are the problem with vidders
[3:32:08 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: not me
[3:32:13 PM] Matt: Okay, so if you go "Hey this looks like a troll post"
[3:32:15 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: all you do is find fault in peoples videos
[3:32:17 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: read your comments
[3:32:18 PM] Matt: Your logic is to give it attention?
[3:32:20 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: read them all
[3:32:26 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: all you do is nay say
[3:32:34 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: when you dont even have the talent to tell people what to do better
[3:32:51 PM] Matt: Oh so this is an "I'm better than you so shut up" conversation
[3:32:51 PM] Matt: I see
[3:32:57 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: this conversation is
[3:33:02 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: UNTIL YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME, SHUT UP
[3:33:06 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: or maybe
[3:33:07 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: READ FIRST
[3:33:14 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: i posted several times
[3:33:20 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: that the watermark will not be in final
[3:33:23 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: but you couldnt make it that far
[3:33:31 PM] Matt: Yep
[3:33:46 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: so then its not a suggestion, and if it is. you're too late
[3:34:07 PM] Matt: Okay, so I'm late...I do appreciate the vey personal response though, you've addressed my concerns wonderfully
[3:34:17 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: yer just lucky
[3:34:20 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: ill say that
[3:34:25 PM] Matt: And I'm glad to see you aren't taking the video in a negative direction with that watermark shit
[3:34:36 PM] Matt: Not sure about the tough guy bullshit, but the personal response was a lovely touch
[3:34:48 PM] Matt: Thanks Kham
[3:34:49 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: there is no tough guy bullshit
[3:34:55 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: its easy to call it that from behind your pc
[3:35:10 PM] Matt: Oh come on lol
[3:35:12 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: but if you had commented this shit to me in person about my video, i would have confronted you then asi am now
[3:35:16 PM] Matt: "ILL TAEK DOWN ALL UR VIDS
[3:35:17 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: it has nothing to do with any act
[3:35:18 PM] Matt: lol
[3:35:21 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: its me caring about my work
[3:35:25 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: enough to let
[3:35:26 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: SOME FUCK
[3:35:31 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: who has done nothing
[3:35:36 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: but say negative shit about peoples videos
[3:35:40 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: come along out of NOWHERE
[3:35:50 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and give me shit about a security precaution that is totally necessary
[3:36:03 PM] Matt: I really don't only say negative shit, but if you knew anything about me at all (maybe from READING) that I can be helpful and constructive too
[3:36:04 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: but its all good
[3:36:06 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: as ive said
[3:36:13 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: you havent had your work stolen
[3:36:44 PM] Matt: I don't disagree with watermarks at all
[3:36:54 PM] Matt: And I totally understand WHY you'd put them on that video
[3:37:03 PM] Matt: I disagreed with the completely obsessive way you did it
[3:37:07 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: but youcould have found this yourself
[3:37:24 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: i dont need some bitch campaigning her opinion all over to get people hyped enough to write some shit
[3:37:49 PM] Matt: She wasn't 'campaigning'
[3:38:01 PM] Matt: We've both been following your video for a while, through all the betas and talking about what you're doing in it
[3:38:07 PM] Matt: It's okay Kham, shhhh
[3:38:09 PM] Matt: it's gon be k
[3:38:19 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: lol
[3:38:20 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: dude
[3:38:26 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: dont try and talk down to me
[3:38:32 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: like im out of control or anything
[3:38:36 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and why the fuck
[3:38:40 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: are you following my video?
[3:38:42 PM] Matt: Out of control, no....butthurt? Kinda
[3:38:52 PM] Matt: I'm following it because I like what you're doing in it
[3:38:58 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: butthurt would imply that im offended of the context of the message
[3:39:01 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: im not
[3:39:07 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: its the fact the message exists
[3:39:11 PM] Matt: The thematic elements are a great example of some of the things I've been trying to explain to other editors for a long time
[3:39:14 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: when it didnt need to be
[3:39:31 PM] Matt: So I like your video because you do things in it that are very clear to see, very film style editing
[3:39:40 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: its random
[3:39:44 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: you are lookin WAY too much into it
[3:40:01 PM] Matt: So you're bragging to me then about 17k views on a video that's 'random'?
[3:40:05 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: yup
[3:40:07 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: exactly
[3:40:14 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and THATS talent
[3:40:26 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: when your random most unfocused works
[3:40:33 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: can do better than the shit you pour your heart into
[3:40:42 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: besides
[3:40:44 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: its fucking youtube
[3:40:48 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: i gives a shit about youtube
[3:40:52 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: this is about YOU
[3:40:56 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: not the post
[3:40:58 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: not the content of the post
[3:41:02 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: just about you being a dick
[3:41:07 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and thinkin you need to offer me tops
[3:41:08 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: tips*
[3:41:12 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: i dont need your help editing man
[3:41:24 PM] Matt: I'm not saying you NEED to do them, they're suggestions
[3:41:31 PM] Matt: Feel free to disregard any number of them
[3:41:35 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and if youve been FOLLOWING MY VIDEO
[3:41:37 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: you would have seen
[3:41:42 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: the suggestion has been made
[3:41:44 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: 10fold
[3:41:48 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: by other people
[3:42:05 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: but yet you think YOURS is different?
[3:42:19 PM] Matt: I don't think it's 'different', I just agreed with other people
[3:42:20 PM] Matt: Period
[3:42:39 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: thats funny cause all i see on your comment is
[3:42:41 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: I THIS
[3:42:42 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: AND I THAT
[3:42:53 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: tellin me how i made a shitty windwos version of a video now
[3:43:43 PM] Matt: There, fixed it with a new comment
[3:44:33 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: i just dont understand what makes you think you have such a foundation that you can just troll along on peoples pages offering your "wisdom" when you havent even displayed a solid ground of accomplishment or talent to stand on
[3:44:34 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and no
[3:44:47 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: i fixed it by removing "repeated" posts
[3:44:55 PM] Matt: That works too
[3:45:06 PM] Matt: However you want to deal with it, you're a big boy
[3:45:41 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: well its hard to walk tall when you got people tryin to drag you down to where they are
[3:45:50 PM] Matt: Haters gonna hate
[3:45:54 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: yeah
[3:46:19 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and im sure you met every suggestion with your videos with total maturity and acceptance too
[3:46:21 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: amirite
[3:46:42 PM] Matt: I either ignore what I don't like or acknowledge what I do agree with
[3:46:42 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: based on the shit ive read from you in the past, you cant take it but you can sure dish it out
[3:46:47 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: and give other people shit for not taking it
[3:47:38 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: ignore what yo dont like?
[3:47:39 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: hahah
[3:47:52 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: maybe thats the reason you edit at the level you currently edit at
[3:47:55 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: my advice
[3:47:57 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: GET GOOD
[3:47:59 PM] Dashboard Sandwiches: later
[3:48:07 PM] Matt: TAKE CRITICISM
[3:48:09 PM] Matt: see ya
[3:48:15 PM] *** Matt blocked Dashboard Sandwiches ***

Edit: Just noticed he posted three comments on my actual front youtube page. How mature.

[CodeZTM]

Where is this video in question, I'm quite intrigued. XD

Also... DAMN. O_O

[Otohiko]

lol, Kham is not "some youtuber". Kham is kham. He didn't get banned from the IRC just the other week for nothing - this is the shit he pulls sometimes

[guy07]

Khameleon is still around? I haven't see that guy in like a year. Good to know he's still doing his thing. lol

[NeoQuixotic]

Lawl! Some people are total drama queens.

[Nessephanie]

Yeah that's Kham, he was a member of RDS, so definitely not a youtuber. But what Oto said...

[LittleAtari]

o reda definately knows that he's not a 'youtuber'

[godix]

And to think, right before I read this I was reading a livejournal entry about how editors aren't really elitest....

[Kionon]

...aww and here I thought this was actually going to be something I gave a shit about.

It isn't.

[Prodigi]

...aww and here I thought this was actually going to be something I gave a shit about.

It isn't.

Wow. Almost like every story you ever tell us that begins with one of the following:

"Back in the day..."
"Phade and I..."
"Kevin Caldwell and I..."
"[Some random band] and I..."
"[Some random anime director] and I..."
"At this convention 10[+] years ago..."