Introductions Subforum

[LittleAtari]

3) We already get enough people who don't read the rules posting "Hey guise I maek AMVs heers my utube channel k? ^_^~~~~~". Do you really want to make a forum section that pretty much begs for shit posts like that?

This section wont be an announcement forum and the threads will have a time limit on them. If someone wants to link to their youtube or deviantart account, I really dont see the problem. The idea is that people will introduce themselves and then stick around. Keep in mind, we have an announcement forum for announcing videos. So if we see someone using the intro thread to announce videos, we can just lock it and direct them to the proper forum. If anything, I'd expect people to check out those youtube account and post on the forums stuff like "Hey, could you upload that one video to this site?"

1) Don't fix what isn't broken. To my knowledge, in the few years I've been here, the lack of an introductions board hasn't caused any major problems. It also forced users to get their names out there the good ol' fashioned way: by making good AMVs.

I think it's broken in that we have people say that this site is too cliquey or there's a bunch of inside jokes that no one understands. This could be a nice social introduction for new people.

As for getting their name out by making good AMVs, what about people who are already established AMV makers and edit well? It's often that they'll get overlooked in the announcements because people dont know their name. Then, they'll just go back to their YT accounts because they feel like they have more of an audience there.

Edit: Sure is Groupthink in here...

This idea was discussed the IRC before I made the forum post. It's where we came up with the idea.

[JaddziaDax]

Most of the time, newbies rarely have a chance to "get their names" out there because they are always overshadowed by the "Elitist" on the org's posts. Newbies barely get a page worth of replies or even have people check out their vids while the elitist get like 6-10 pages worth. How are they supposed to get their names out there if no one will even look at them?

The solution to that is for new users to post in other people's threads to spread their name. If they put forth some effort to participate, then they're more likely to be rewarded by being welcomed into the community.

I agree with this.

I found that the best way to get people watching/responding to my announcement threads is to participate in others. Also all it takes is a bit of lurking and paying attention to the rules to figure out how this community works.

Besides most of the in-jokes we use around here didn't originate here, they are 4-chan/Encyclopedia Dramatica references.

I'm not opposed to an Intro Forum, but I don't see it as necessary either. I'd be interested to see how it goes.

I like Godix's idea of everyone making a post in it as a means of backlogging. It would be interesting to have them linked on member profiles as well to make them a bit easier to get to, but that's me asking for someone do do some coding O.o so no stress.

[Nya-chan Production]

The problem with newbies posting in Announcement forums is they don't get anything from it - possibly "Thank you" from author, possibly "Nobody asked you" from an author who's an ass. Considering one can see so many empty announcement threads you can think like this:

"If I reply to this thread, there is still no guarantee I'll get replies to mine - so why bother"

And even if you do post, if you're alone you'll lose enthusiasm after some while when you see nothing's changed and nobody still replies.

OTOH if they see they can get some replies in Welcome threads (which are usually visited by at least a few people (from this community I am pretty sure me, godix, Kio and few others would visit it regularly to welcome newbies/scare them away) would reply and show the people they can get replies, which will lead to more active replies on boards.

[Nya-chan Production]

OTOH if they see they can get some replies in Welcome threads (which are usually visited by at least a few people (from this community I am pretty sure me, godix, Kio and few others would visit it regularly to welcome newbies/scare them away) who would reply and show the people they can get replies), that could lead to more active replies on boards.

Got kinda lost in my brackets >.>

[gotegenks]

Besides most of the in-jokes we use around here didn't originate here, they are 4-chan/Encyclopedia Dramatica references.

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[Kazemon15]

Wait, Rider was a chick? O.o

...is.

When I type fast, my head lacks the processing to fix errors. XD

The solution to that is for new users to post in other people's threads to spread their name. If they put forth some effort to participate, then they're more likely to be rewarded by being welcomed into the community.

The only problem with that is not everyone is an outgoing happy go lucky person. There are relatively shy users around here too who only post to let people check out their AMVs and then just lurk away into the depths of the shadows... (Im one of them.)

There are also users who don't like to watch mainstream AMVs (which most of the Announcement forum consists of), avoid them because they know they won't enjoy them and only looks for the underdog AMVs (which is a rarity) and only replies to those. (Again, Im one of them)

The problem with newbies posting in Announcement forums is they don't get anything from it - possibly "Thank you" from author, possibly "Nobody asked you" from an author who's an ass. Considering one can see so many empty announcement threads you can think like this:

"If I reply to this thread, there is still no guarantee I'll get replies to mine - so why bother"

And even if you do post, if you're alone you'll lose enthusiasm after some while when you see nothing's changed and nobody still replies.

OTOH if they see they can get some replies in Welcome threads (which are usually visited by at least a few people (from this community I am pretty sure me, godix, Kio and few others would visit it regularly to welcome newbies/scare them away) would reply and show the people they can get replies, which will lead to more active replies on boards.

I agree with this.

There is no guarantee if someone posts in someone else's thread, the other poster will do the same and reply back. There are a few people I know who would do that, but not many... and if a newbie does try and be active but still gets no replies in their own thread, they'll just lurk away back to youtube.

[Ileia]

There's also no guarantee that if someone posts an introduction thread that anyone will respond. Especially if the whole problem is that the org is supposed to be some uninviting clique and that's the reason why we need introduction forums. Sure, a few people will say "OH, I will, I will!" but it's pretty easy to say it now and a lot harder to dutifully answer each inevitably repetitive thread with more than "ohai". I think the best way is still just actively taking part in threads. If you're a shy lurker who only posts their own videos and nothing else, even then, the repetition of just seeing the name will make you become more recognizable. I'm certainly up for the idea of trying out the forum, I'd love to be wrong about this but I really would be surprised if it made much of a difference.

Also, what the fuck? Having replies to your thread makes you elitist? If I recognize someone's name and check out their vid and respond, that does NOT make them an arrogant bastard. There is a difference between "known" and "elitist".

[gotegenks]

There's also no guarantee that if someone posts an introduction thread that anyone will respond. Especially if the whole problem is that the org is supposed to be some uninviting clique and that's the reason why we need introduction forums. Sure, a few people will say "OH, I will, I will!" but it's pretty easy to say it now and a lot harder to dutifully answer each inevitably repetitive thread with more than "ohai".

well, maybe you have to post an amv or have an amv uploaded to your profile to be able to make an introduction thread?

but you do make a good point.

[Kazemon15]

Also, what the fuck? Having replies to your thread makes you elitist? If I recognize someone's name and check out their vid and respond, that does NOT make them an arrogant bastard. There is a difference between "known" and "elitist".

I'm not saying anything like that. I'm having a hard time explaining it.

Let's say, for example, if a newbie were to post in the announcement thread and the same day, let's say, Koop announces a video. Everyone is obviously going to go flocking to Koop's thread and keep posting about it, leaving the other threads in the dust. There's no point for everyone to post the same thing over and over in a well known person's thread and keeping it on the front page for months on end, stealing the publicity of other threads announced on the same day.

[Ileia]

I understand what you're saying but you are confusing "known" or "popular" for "elitist". There is a difference.