Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

[Ileia]

Never said Kaze was a jerk (Yue is just having a little evil fun. I'm a bitch. It happens =w=)

And yeah, I did send out messages to people to send in their old videos. And I seem to remember certain responses along the lines of "Well, if I make a video just for this con and it doesn't make it into the finals due a monkey ton of old videos that have been out for well over a year now...well, that kinda sucks."
EXACTLY. Was I nice and sweet while trying to prove this? Hell no. I hope that everyone who loses to/couldn't make it into the contest due to "Hello Fairy" or any other old videos starts to think twice about the "Well, i likez mah video...imma send it summore!"
I'm not telling everyone to "plaayyy faaaiiirr guuuyyysss =<"
Fuck, I don't play fair by any standards. Ask people I play TF2 with, camping is fun
But for anyone who actually gives a shit about the contest and AMVs in general, looking at the finalists and saying "Oh hey...I saw that last year...actually...well over a year ago. It was ok but why are they still sending it to more cons when it's hella old? Wouldn't cha think that after a year and a half they'd have something new to send in? Guess not :/"

If all else fails, screw the audience. I hate the public, but what the hell ever happened to standards? You can go around claiming that the audience will come stare and cheer for a giant smelly dog turd if they haven't seen it previously but what about those who actually give a shit about the shit?
Love my analogy don't ya?

I completely agree with your idea, just not your method. By encouraging people to send old vids to show that the rule should be changed, you're just doing the same thing to the contest that you don't like about it. Personally, I haven't seen many contest coordinators who completely disregard feedback, especially when properly presented. Vlad brought up some really good points and I know you have many of your own. Maybe talk to them about it when you're at AX?

[Radical_Yue]

Never said Kaze was a jerk (Yue is just having a little evil fun. I'm a bitch. It happens =w=)

And yeah, I did send out messages to people to send in their old videos. And I seem to remember certain responses along the lines of "Well, if I make a video just for this con and it doesn't make it into the finals due a monkey ton of old videos that have been out for well over a year now...well, that kinda sucks."
EXACTLY. Was I nice and sweet while trying to prove this? Hell no. I hope that everyone who loses to/couldn't make it into the contest due to "Hello Fairy" or any other old videos starts to think twice about the "Well, i likez mah video...imma send it summore!"
I'm not telling everyone to "plaayyy faaaiiirr guuuyyysss =<"
Fuck, I don't play fair by any standards. Ask people I play TF2 with, camping is fun
But for anyone who actually gives a shit about the contest and AMVs in general, looking at the finalists and saying "Oh hey...I saw that last year...actually...well over a year ago. It was ok but why are they still sending it to more cons when it's hella old? Wouldn't cha think that after a year and a half they'd have something new to send in? Guess not :/"

If all else fails, screw the audience. I hate the public, but what the hell ever happened to standards? You can go around claiming that the audience will come stare and cheer for a giant smelly dog turd if they haven't seen it previously but what about those who actually give a shit about the shit?
Love my analogy don't ya?

I completely agree with your idea, just not your method. By encouraging people to send old vids to show that the rule should be changed, you're just doing the same thing to the contest that you don't like about it. Personally, I haven't seen many contest coordinators who completely disregard feedback, especially when properly presented. Vlad brought up some really good points and I know you have many of your own. Maybe talk to them about it when you're at AX?

I know my methods weren't the best but I guess I'd be one of those parents that would make you smoke a whole pack of cigs when they caught you smoking one.
And it's a pain in the ass to find them when at AX :/
Besides, as stated before, I've already gone off on this subject last year (along with a few others) and was completely ignored.

[Castor Troy]

Expect a (brutally) honest opinion of the contest as soon as I get home from watching it.

I'm really hoping for a "Now I see why I didn't make it" reaction like in 2003 and not a "My video should have been in there" from 2008.

[Radical_Yue]

Expect a (brutally) honest opinion of the contest as soon as I get home from watching it.

I'm really hoping for a "Now I see why I didn't make it" reaction like in 2003 and not a "My video should have been in there" from 2008.

I guess you didn't see my previous post with an entry from the "Pro" division.

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... 3#p1325493

Set your expectations pally

[Ileia]

I'd be one of those parents that would make you smoke a whole pack of cigs when they caught you smoking one.

But what if they get addicted and next thing you know they're hanging out with Brad and Liz?!!

[Radical_Yue]

I'd be one of those parents that would make you smoke a whole pack of cigs when they caught you smoking one.

But what if they get addicted and next thing you know they're hanging out with Brad and Liz?!!

THAT WOULD BE...not too bad :3 I miss you guys ;_;

[machina21]

Im sure everyone will hate mine. No, really, you will hate them.

[Castor Troy]

I think I've seen some of these videos from last year's AWA

[Kazemon15]

Expect a (brutally) honest opinion of the contest as soon as I get home from watching it.

I'm really hoping for a "Now I see why I didn't make it" reaction like in 2003 and not a "My video should have been in there" from 2008.

I guess you didn't see my previous post with an entry from the "Pro" division.

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... 3#p1325493

Set your expectations pally

It's a "Blue Orchid" all over again! And by the same person too.

[The Wired Knight]

I've never liked sending my old stuff - I cycle my works out one year after the first con I submitted them to. But that's my personal perogative. As far as cons not allowing old stuff it's a tough call. Overall I agree with Vlad that you risk it becoming an AMV block and defeat its yearly purpose.

However, since cons allready have a rule of not submitting the same video twice then you don't have the same issue provided that the audience isn't well versed in AMVs. We all know a few of those videos from a year to two years back. But the question is, does the audience? Generally speaking they do not so it's new to them and only we notice any discrepency. Hello Fairy will certainly do well at AX, and most people haven't seen it because that video has generally only hit east coast and northern conventions. Not many people attend conventions across the country and will instead only go to local ones.

Example - a friend of mine throws a new years party every year for the past 6 years. Every year at that party I compile a ton of the videos I really liked from the most recent AWA and showcase them to the group (the party generally is about 30-40 odd people). Everybody enjoys it but wonders why they didn't see these videos at AX. Point is though, had these year old videos been submitted to the following AX or the one thereafter, the audience won't notice the difference as it's brand new to them. The perspective of the editor and the audience are totally different for old videos and I think the audience doesn't have a problem with it.

There is some editor bias I think because most people don't want to not be in a contest due to a video taht is much older than theirs that is a proven success making it in. Personally I don't fret it but I understand the argument here as you feel that there is unfair competition involved. However, the contests (in my opinion) at most cons is for the audience's sake, not the editors'.