IC Source tiering?

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Re: IC Source tiering?

Post by gotegenks » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:24 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:One has older animation one has newer animation. I guess I don't tier them in that way because I take the context of when they were made as well.

Not to mention my statement about familiarity still stands. I'm sure that someone more familiar with Kenshin will do better with it if they are not very familiar with Champloo.
So basically you'd give them some extra points for using an old anime. Sort of like evening the field if the other guy uses a really good anime. Let's say everything has a numerical value. There's virtually no way for you to know exactly how many points will even the field between EVA rebuild and Classic NGE. You'd either give it to the NGE user because of the handicap, or to the Rebuild user because of entertainment or your judgment of editing skills (which is bound to be inaccurate). With the existence of tiers, judges could forgo giving handicap points altogether. You'd know what you were getting into. It'd be a list of who's considered weaker, so if someone wanted to use a weaker source in a higher tier, then that's on them and not the judge.

And your statement of familiarity is completely irrelevant. If an editor is only familiar with old or bad animes and he does better with them than newer or good animes then he's already at a disadvantage as if his opponent is the typical editor these days then he's probably familiar with (at the very least) one of the EVA rebuilds or FF7. So that actually supports the existence of tiers. The old-school anime lover can ic in some of the lower tiers where his lowly kenshin and YuYu stand a chance.
I'm not saying we should have tiers
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Re: IC Source tiering?

Post by Pwolf » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:37 pm

gotegenks wrote:The old-school anime lover can ic in some of the lower tiers where his lowly kenshin and YuYu stand a chance.
wait? kenshin isn't as good as eva rebuild or ac? fucking kids -_-

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Re: IC Source tiering?

Post by gotegenks » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:37 pm

Pwolf wrote:
gotegenks wrote:The old-school anime lover can ic in some of the lower tiers where his lowly kenshin and YuYu stand a chance.
wait? kenshin isn't as good as eva rebuild or ac? fucking kids -_-
animation-wise, sorry gramps.
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Re: IC Source tiering?

Post by Pwolf » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:38 pm

Nya-chan Production wrote:
Ileia wrote:If you're going to have judges who value videos based solely on source, you could forgo the whole editing part and just show them which DVDs you own. :o
Sadly that's the way many judges work |:

Find good judges then...

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Re: IC Source tiering?

Post by Nya-chan Production » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:39 pm

I want to edit to what I want if I have the idea.

Limitations = bad for creativity. All or nothing.
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Re: IC Source tiering?

Post by NS » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:42 pm

This is like the stupidest topic ever. People should judge based on editing and editing alone, not on Source or combination or anything else.

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Re: IC Source tiering?

Post by Kristyrat » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:48 pm

Nya-chan Production wrote:Limitations = bad for creativity. All or nothing.

Actually, I believe the opposite is true. Limitations force people to think outside the box, to be creative to achieve results. I think that's why Iron Chef videos can be really entertaining, because people play with what they're limited to.

As for this tiering of sources, you seem to think that "old" anime isn't winning Iron Chefs, which I can tell you isn't true at all. Maybe you're just used to seeing ICs that have been done recently, by editors who are more familiar with newer sources. It's difficult to use a catchall and say "New anime is easier to use because it's prettier and better", because really, no matter how nice a source may look, if you can't edit, you can't edit. Fast motion might look sexy in a fast video, but fast, high-motion scenes could look much worse than something more sober for a more dramatic video.
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Re: IC Source tiering?

Post by Pwolf » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:51 pm

NS wrote:This is like the stupidest topic ever. People should judge based on editing and editing alone, not on Source or combination or anything else.
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I would've added more but oh well... Please someone lock this stupid thread before the newbs get anymore ideas and the quality of editing as we know doesn't get any worse then is obviously already is because apparently videos are judged based on how pretty the animation is :nono:

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Re: IC Source tiering?

Post by Pwolf » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:52 pm

*cough*

Please someone lock this stupid thread before the newbs get any more ideas and the quality of editing as we know doesn't get any worse then it already is... because apparently videos are judged based on how pretty the animation is :nono:

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Re: IC Source tiering?

Post by NS » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:54 pm

If you ever wanna get your ass kicked in an IC against somebody who uses old ass sources... IC against G_Q

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