Cleaning up Outlaw Star

[Mister Hatt]

lol'd

The guides that say to use Lanczos are not WRONG, they're just outdated. Spline scaling just got added to avisynth relatively recently (v2.56) while most guides were written years before that. Even photoshop doesn't use a spline filter yet IIRC. In my above post, I gave a rather brief outline on why Lanczos is bad though and how Spline rectifies that. I can expand on that if you want.

Nothing wrong with being a perfectionist if you're just a bit ignorant on the specifics, both mirko and I are as well I guess. What I meant by sterile was exactly what the word means, devoid of anything. Sterile video would just be the outlines and the fills and maybe a TINY bit of texture. Anime usually has a fair bit of texture, especially on more recent stuff (lol Outlaw Star) so blindly nuking it with <filter that sounds an awful lot like DEEN or DFTTest> isn't really the greatest idea. You really don't need the source plugin post processing, it is destructive and usually not helpful. Your filters are doing what you want them to, the problem is that they are not the best filters for that. There are much better newer filters.

For simple edge enhancement, I would probably suggest EdgeCleaner(), or if you can find enough info on google about it, frequency domain contrasharpening works REALLY well, although not so great on content like this as it would on Katanagatari/Kemono no Souja Erin/Noein, or anything else that looks like it's drawn with crayons.

[Cannonaire]

I'm still trying to figure out how to fix the dot crawl if possible, as that is the reason for this thread. But while we're on the topic of the other stuff, I have a couple examples for my use of DeRainbow. I welcome any advice for a better solution that still fixes the problem as well as DeRainbow(10) without blurring, although I can't see any difference in the scenes I've checked it with. (I also can't see any difference between Spline36 and Lanczos yet, but that will require checking more scenes).

Here's a scene exhibiting rainbowing. It's not the most prominent example, but it easily shows off the difference between using DeRainbow and not using it:



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Zoom 200% DeRainbow(10) OFF


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Zoom 200% DeRainbow(10) ON


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And here is my script for the moment. The only difference between image 2 and 3 is in the third DeRainbow is active and not commented out with #.

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mpeg2source("J:\video_rip\outlawstar\ep1a.d2v",cpu=6)
#checkmate(24)
#Tcomb(mode=2,fthreshl=12, othreshl=19)
AMVIVTC(mode=1)
Crop(8, 0, -8, -0)
#LanczosResize(624, 480)
Spline36Resize(624, 480, src_width=704, src_height=480)
#DeRainbow(10)
#Toon()

(For the record, DeRainbow and Toon were both commented out in the other screencaps I posted earlier.)

[mirkosp]

For the dotcrawl, try unboxb. It's the one Mister Hatt suggested earlier on, and seems to be pretty good, pans aside.
For the rainbowing, I like LUTDeRainbow.

[EvaFan]

I try never to use cpu=6, usually it oversmooths for me but typically I use bilinearresize for everything so that might be why. I can't tell if it is for you with just that screencap. If you feel like you need to do some sharpening then try just lowering that to cpu=4 before you go sharpening, may like results better or may not even see a difference. Either way lowering that before adding a sharpener would be more efficient for speed. Slightly off topic but I figured I'd throw it out there.

[Mister Hatt]

Or like I hope I said above, don't use the cpu flags in neuron2source because they are far too destructive and slow compared to filters designed for fine filtering in a similar manner.

[Cannonaire]

Good advice. I keep forgetting I used the CPU=*, so I'll disable it for now and see what else I can do to fix any artifacts I see. As far as speed goes, I have plenty of hard drive space, so I'm likely to convert footage to clips rather than using scripts for editing. Also, my CPU is rather slow, so even though I like the idea of being able to edit how the source looks at any time during the project, it would make things run too slowly, even with most of the script lines disabled.

[BasharOfTheAges]

If you have plenty of HDD space, don't even bother clipping, just dump entire DVDs to single files.

[Cannonaire]

I'm having some trouble finding EdgeCleaner(). It wasn't included with AMVApp, and I can't seem to find a download for it searching Google.

[Mister Hatt]

http://voodoo-powered.net/EdgeCleaner.avs limited time offer, will drop the link in a few days.

[mirkosp]

http://dragon5152.pastebin.com/f7a5bc657

Google gave me this.