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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Post by Kionon » Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:49 pm

Bauzi wrote:I have a Mac, but I edit my AMVs on my PC. Just because I don't see any reason to use the Macbook for editing when I use Adobe Premiere Pro. I see no benefit in it.
Well, I use Adobe Premiere Pro as my editing suite. With the exception of direct use of AVS files and the need to have a .MOV container (which as explained above, should take mere seconds), there is no difference. I only edited with AVS files during ICs, and I keep a small windows bootcamp partition with XP on it, just in case I feel the urge. I've booted into it like... twice in the last year and a half. Clipping was always a part of my editing process, so I encountered very little difference going from Windows Premiere to Mac Premiere: the software is 99.999% identical.
I would like to see an overview about lossless, lossy and preview codecs on a Mac that are relevant for editing.
I can do that.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Post by rubyeye » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:31 pm

Kionon wrote:Rubeye, have you read every sticky yet?
I've read a lot, but may have missed one or two. I just like to be able to go to one source location that has every piece of information consolidated. I'm actually doing something like that right now with my FCP notes, from watching countless hours of tutorials.

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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Post by Kionon » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:50 pm

rubyeye wrote:
Kionon wrote:Rubeye, have you read every sticky yet?
I've read a lot, but may have missed one or two. I just like to be able to go to one source location that has every piece of information consolidated. I'm actually doing something like that right now with my FCP notes, from watching countless hours of tutorials.
Again, this is the goal, but honestly, it's a massive effort, and the stickies represent what will be sections or chapters in that guide. This is why I want to know just how many people will use this guide if I write it. If there's just 15 of us, hell, just get on IRC and I'll talk you through the process. If there are a lot more of us, or we want to start building an actual subcommunity of Mac editors, then we're going to want that kind of guide out there, easily accessible to everyone.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Post by JudgeHolden » Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:47 am

I edit purely on a Mac. I use Final Cut Studio, Shake, and AE. :roll: I do 90% of my effects work in AE and Shake, with about 5% in Motion and 5% in FCP. Often I have 3+ programs going at once. Now this is all on a G5 ... I can't wait to get my Mac Mini. :P

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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Post by Kionon » Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:51 am

JudgeHolden wrote:I edit purely on a Mac. I use Final Cut Studio, Shake, and AE. :roll: I do 90% of my effects work in AE and Shake, with about 5% in Motion and 5% in FCP. Often I have 3+ programs going at once. Now this is all on a G5 ... I can't wait to get my Mac Mini. :P
Details, please. Would you be willing to help working on part of the guide? I do not use FCS pretty much at all, even though I have it. I edit exclusively in Premiere.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Post by mirkosp » Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:28 am

Zarxrax wrote:
Kionon wrote:Castor Troy, no. There is still no native implementation of avs on the Mac. Not until certain people get off their collective developer asses and finish what they promised would be in the 3.0 version.
AVS 3 is dead. Don't stay up late waiting :)
Non-vfw builds of avisynth 2.5.7 and/or 2.5.8 do exist though, as I'm sure some people are able to run avisynth natively on linux... and that might mean unix in general so perhaps could work for macs too. If only they were public available builds. :roll:
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Post by Kitsuner » Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:39 am

mirkosp wrote:Non-vfw builds of avisynth 2.5.8 do exist though
I bet that's your favorite build.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Post by Mister Hatt » Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:32 am

Too bad mirko hasn't got a copy of it, and implying that the people with it would share (´∀`)

The two ways to use avisynth in OSX that are both bad but one is less bad:
wine avs2yuv.exe some.avs -o - | x264 - --stdin y4m --crf 0 --preset veryfast --tune fastdecode,zerolatency --keymax 3 -o lossless.mkv
Fancy virtual machine stuff with win2k stripped. Works faster and somewhat better at times, requires HDD space and lots of RAM.

Avisynth 3.0 is dead, the one developer it ever had has stated years ago that he does not intent to finish it and is no longer working on it. I don't know where people are getting the idea that it will eventually come out from, it is not stalled development, it is completely closed and dead.

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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Post by Kionon » Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:41 am

Hatt, give me a write up, please. I assume you're running wine there in terminal. This isn't asking too much of me or some of the other veteran editors here, but it is more complicated than my amvapp via crossover/wine gui write up. It's a giant leap for newer mac editors, and that might be something to get into in a more advanced section.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Post by Mister Hatt » Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:58 am

What exactly do you want me to cover? avs2yuv is strictly terminal but you can run vdub and whatnot well enough in wine. I have no idea for crossover as I've never used it.

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