PAL Anime DVD Restoring

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PAL Anime DVD Restoring

Post by Mally » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:00 am

Yes . I own many Anime DVD's that are sadly in the PAL region due to my english nature . I don't want replies saying just buy NTSC or that kinda thing even tho it is so true . But i'm going to ask a big favor of anyone who is bothered to help me .

I need help restoring PAL Anime DVDs to its original nature thus expelling most of the blended frames also .
I have read about it . But i had trouble finding filters and such . To do with Bobbing and decimation .
So if anyone could help , even the slightest bit , it will be much appreciated .

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Re: PAL Anime DVD Restoring

Post by mirkosp » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:25 am

http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Srestore

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Prey gods or whatever you believe in that you get a decent enough result. Will still have some blended frames. Unless you feel like photoshopping a lot, restoring PAL to perfection is hardly doable to impossible depending on how badly your source was blended to begin with.
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Re: PAL Anime DVD Restoring

Post by Mister Hatt » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:39 pm

Not possible. The anime industry is full of people who don't know what they're doing and the conversion from telecined FILM (NTSC) to PAL destroys certain frames in almost every PAL DVD out there. There is no way to get it back to the original. The best you can do is Restore24() in AVS, or as mirko said.

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Re: PAL Anime DVD Restoring

Post by Mally » Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:48 pm

mirkosp wrote:http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Srestore

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srestore()
Prey gods or whatever you believe in that you get a decent enough result. Will still have some blended frames. Unless you feel like photoshopping a lot, restoring PAL to perfection is hardly doable to impossible depending on how badly your source was blended to begin with.
Ohhh Thanks Alot Mirko .
I am sure to try that .
And Basically PAL DVDS are pretty much hopeless unless in the case of being lucky owning a progressive version .

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Re: PAL Anime DVD Restoring

Post by Mally » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:18 pm

Mister Hatt wrote:Not possible. The anime industry is full of people who don't know what they're doing and the conversion from telecined FILM (NTSC) to PAL destroys certain frames in almost every PAL DVD out there. There is no way to get it back to the original. The best you can do is Restore24() in AVS, or as mirko said.
Well thanks alot anyways : ) .

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Re: PAL Anime DVD Restoring

Post by mirkosp » Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:17 am

JustMally wrote:And Basically PAL DVDS are pretty much hopeless unless in the case of being lucky owning a progressive version .
Depends if it was made through speed up or not. If it wasn't, then they either just added a frame every 24 or blended everything...
The best thing would be euro telecine, which does happen, but sadly only a few companies figured out it's the best choice.
In any case, I'm a PAL user myself so I can feel for you. :P
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Re: PAL Anime DVD Restoring

Post by Mally » Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:17 am

mirkosp wrote:
JustMally wrote:And Basically PAL DVDS are pretty much hopeless unless in the case of being lucky owning a progressive version .
Depends if it was made through speed up or not. If it wasn't, then they either just added a frame every 24 or blended everything...
The best thing would be euro telecine, which does happen, but sadly only a few companies figured out it's the best choice.
In any case, I'm a PAL user myself so I can feel for you. :P
*Sigh* The Consumer world always puts the european users down .
But not as bad as austrailia . They get things months late from release . D :

Is austrailia PAL Also ?

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Re: PAL Anime DVD Restoring

Post by mirkosp » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:23 pm

Yes. Europe, Australia, and a few other countries are PAL. America, Japan, and a few others are NTSC.
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Re: PAL Anime DVD Restoring

Post by Mister Hatt » Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:47 am

All Madman DVD's in Australia are done the same way. That is, take telecined video, and decimate it down to 25fps. That destroys some frames and makes it impossible to recover to the original FILM rates. I've confirmed this with some contacts there.

Siren Visual tends to do things a bit better. Some of their stuff is done like that but it's mostly really old. They now use FILM material and either blended interpolation or speedups to get 25fps PAL. On the stuff they contract out euro telecine is used, but you won't find that stuff around yet.

hurr hurr working in industry >.>

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