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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Post by Ileia » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:11 pm

I pull every possible clip/scene into Magix and arrange them into sections, depending on what I'm doing with the video. For my most recent video, I had sections of things like "scenery/opening", "slow-mo/pretty scenes", "action sequences", and "ending" and then I just went from there. I call it a clip buffet, because it reminds me of how many of the larger buffet chains set things up. Appetizers, side items, main course, dessert. I have a large selection and I just pick and choose what I want from each section.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Post by BasharOfTheAges » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:01 pm

I note from the POV of the song... usually in segments that I mark in the timeline.

For what i'm currently working on I haven't done more than comment on the song itself though, and it's not exactly helping.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Post by Infinity Squared » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:53 pm

JudgeHolden wrote:I just stare at my shelves stocked full of 150+ anime series and hope something comes to me. Nothing ever gets written down. :sweat:
That's more or less it for me. Stare at the collection... see if I have what I'm looking for... and if not, then research, but yeah, all the "storyboarding" itself happens in my head as it comes to me.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Post by Fall_Child42 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:10 pm

I draw them.

Seriously, I set out sheets of 8.5 x 11 paper in 6 sections and I draw on it and make notes.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Post by Knowname » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:23 am

Bauzi wrote:Thanks Vivaldi! Im gonna check it out too :o

Man... I feel ultra lazy. I just make another Premiere Pro Sequence paste in all episodes and movies. Every source gets one complete track and than I scrub (of course most tracks are disabeled for speed ups). Than I cut scenes out, set markers and that's pretty much it. I leave it as it is so I can come back. Next... another sequence. That's my clip pool. I through in every usefull clips into it.

Yeah I know that a trimmer is great for working, but I like this kind of source scouting much more. I dunno... it feels better to me. Oh and don't really like to render out small clips out of VDM. Most of the time I use DVDs or make complete huge lossless copies of my footage.
Ileia wrote:I pull every possible clip/scene into Magix and arrange them into sections, depending on what I'm doing with the video. For my most recent video, I had sections of things like "scenery/opening", "slow-mo/pretty scenes", "action sequences", and "ending" and then I just went from there. I call it a clip buffet, because it reminds me of how many of the larger buffet chains set things up. Appetizers, side items, main course, dessert. I have a large selection and I just pick and choose what I want from each section.
I do both. well I don't clip (or clean) at all (might change if I worked with avs), but, when putting together a time line it just looks messy, messy messy messy. how do I make sense of the madness though?? and this is why I would lose if I went back to clipping. I listen to the song over and over when choosing my scenes. see I sorta' already know how quite a few scenes will work with the song because when I do what bauzi says. Just load up the entire vob (or the entire episode if it's *gasp* downloaded footage), I inch my way through it keeping the parts I like through the preview window. But AS I do this I have the song under the video footage. So for every 'inch' I listen to the full song. once I finish the song I erase all the video file I went over and drag the song to where I was. And listen to it again ^_^ sometimes I go through an entire episode, find no usable footage, just listen to the song like 10x.

OFC the way I go sounds like the worst form of masochism lol but... I really think that's why I'm able just to lay clips and they work. I wouldn't have this same feeling if I made clips, I just wouldn't o.0. Also I think this is faster than doing it in two seperate motions.

BUT of coarse there are also a few scenes, every time, that I don't see how they'd work... but somehow end up with anyway. How? well it's since when I clip I watch the entire thing I might know what happens before and after a clip I have and SINCE these clips are not 'clipped' but instead parts of an entire vob they continue on instead of ending at the end/ beginning. Particularly useful for fades and such. Well anyway I know if I want that scene I can still go get it ^_^ it's not like it's any more than simply lengthening the scene before it or the scene after it. I'll never go back to clipping.

And again because these 'sections' (I'm talking about the clips that are really sections of the vob in use) don't end, I don't get those 'fading into oblivion' problems I used to. Of coarse, I get more hanging frames than I'd desire though... but they usually get weeded out in the beta process anyway. It's also tough to clean. Not impossible but you'd have to clean an entire vob for one scene lol... unless you end up cleaning the entire thing at the end.

I only use 1 sequence and no markers though. Your way sounds much quicker, I just don't know if you listen to the song every time through like I do. It gives you a much stronger feel of where the clips should go, I think.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Post by Nya-chan Production » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:26 am

Panky wrote:I imagine the start, the end, and if there's enough footage to cover the rest of the song. If it doesn't, the project fails.
This.

And I usuallz just browse the movie{episodes for the right scenes.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Post by ZephyrStar » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:27 am

I make mine with pencils and paper. Sometimes a pen if I feel like it (and from here out with a wacom intuos4 tablet). Oh yes, and lots of coffee. But I would agree with the "start to end" method...figure those out, and then figure out any "impact" kinds of areas inbetween, for example if I know I reeealy want to have x happen to y part of song, I put that down and then see how that fits in relating to the start or ending, then I just fill in the blanks.

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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Post by Otohiko » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:27 am

I don't really, although I will occasionally throw down notes. Otherwise my storyboards are actually betas - since I don't do any compositing/original art, there's really no way for me to know how something is going to look until I get the footage on screen. So usually the very first thing I do is, in a space of just a few hours, make a really rough pre-beta - lazy timing, no filters/effects, some very tentative scene choices - but just something where I can see the actual footage to the actual song.

Doesn't take much longer than drawing/writing out storyboards and if you're not doing original art or heavy external effect work, much more practical imho. I think the term 'storyboarding' is really kind of a misnomer for AMV planning; the only case where real actual storyboarding is useful or even just applicable in AMVs is when people are making a lot of the drawing/animation for the videos themselves.
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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Post by ZephyrStar » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:40 pm

Misnomer indeed. Kinda like how we call it a "beta" ...I always used "critique" before I joined the org...and I always associated "beta" with software. Or fish.

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Re: Storyboards.... How do you make them?

Post by post-it » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:24 am

The storyboarding depends on what part of the AMV you don't know yet.

if you have a song in mind, then working to show the song is quite easy.

However .. there are times when you need a story-board or you'll loose focus
on the "concept" your trying to express .. point noted back in 2003 when we
were trying to get people to "pay attention" to what they were creating:



.. sometimes only you understand what your trying to accomplish; and that's wrong!

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