Take more action in the MEP forums

[Kionon]

You sound like you want a de-facto 4chan with no mods whatsoever.

Quite to the contrary, I said that I liked the way the site is moderated as of now. The mods are quite active. I am certainly not suggesting we move to /b/ like levels of insanity, even in Donator's. And anyhow, all other 4chan boards have mods, so your analogy isn't even a good one. If you mean to suggest I am advocating for /b/ like anarchy, that isn't even doable within a phpbb3 forum, and certainly not what I am suggesting at all.

[Vivaldi]

You sound like you want a de-facto 4chan with no mods whatsoever.

Quite to the contrary, I said that I liked the way the site is moderated as of now. The mods are quite active. I am certainly not suggesting we move to /b/ like levels of insanity, even in Donator's. And anyhow, all other 4chan boards have mods, so your analogy isn't even a good one. If you mean to suggest I am advocating for /b/ like anarchy, that isn't even doable within a phpbb3 forum, and certainly not what I am suggesting at all.

Your ignoration for the rest of my post aside, my analogy was hyperbole. Though I'd contend that while efficient when they do something, the mods are in no way effective right now. Any serious moderation always has to come through the pipeline via drop-box or pm. What we have now is effectivally community moderation, except nobody takes the concept wholesale, and thus mods are only notified when situations get ridiculously out of hand.


As for your attack on the validity of my analogy, if you've spent any time on 4chan you know that while there are theoretically moderators, in practice they do nothing. Easily under 10 posts moderated per month when thousands of violating posts are made every day: just like here. for every post that gets attention, ten more are given a pass.

Also, I was using 4chan as an analogy for the social problem it presents, not a literal corralation. No moderation means trolls can do whatever they want. You can't reasonably argue or defend against troll posts; the only way continue is to adopt harsher, cynical troll tactics yourself. By their nature trolls set the standard by which the community has to operate in order to get anything done. Look at what happened to Aaron, or soup, or Inan, or vax, or hell, even hast. Posters will adapt to the harshest undercurrent in the community, if it continues unfettered, then it just compounds until you've got an anarchic situation. We're already half-way there.

[AaronAMV]

Look at what happened to Aaron, or soup, or Inan, or vax, or hell, even hast.

i saw my name, but i didn't read the post. what happened to me?

[Otohiko]

Look at what happened to Aaron, or soup, or Inan, or vax, or hell, even hast.

i saw my name, but i didn't read the post. what happened to me?

You just got lumped into the same category as hast

[AaronAMV]

Look at what happened to Aaron, or soup, or Inan, or vax, or hell, even hast.

i saw my name, but i didn't read the post. what happened to me?

You just got lumped into the same category as hast

[Vivaldi]

Look at what happened to Aaron, or soup, or Inan, or vax, or hell, even hast.

i saw my name, but i didn't read the post. what happened to me?

You became an asshole, but don't worry, I still love you for it

[AaronAMV]

Look at what happened to Aaron, or soup, or Inan, or vax, or hell, even hast.

i saw my name, but i didn't read the post. what happened to me?

You became an asshole, but don't worry, I still love you for it

i barely even post anymore considering how much i used to, but

[Otohiko]

As to the point about "halfway to anarchy" - well, I think that applies to the MEP forum specifically. Elsewhere things are easier to handle.

I think part of this is that we need better, more specific rules to apply to what is "good" content for the MEP forum. There aren't really any specific rules for it at the moment - perhaps some should be designed, defining the forum's purpose a bit better, and positively if possible. I'm certainly interested in suggestions on that.

[Phlu]

But guys,

[godix]

I think part of this is that we need better, more specific rules to apply to what is "good" content for the MEP forum. There aren't really any specific rules for it at the moment - perhaps some should be designed, defining the forum's purpose a bit better, and positively if possible. I'm certainly interested in suggestions on that.

The problem is different MEP heads tolerate offtopic crap to different degrees. Some are hardasses, some are pansies, some are incredibly relaxed about it all. Hell, half the times the reasons people give for being glad to have taken part in a MEP involve friendships build during it, in other words all the offtopic stuff in the MEP thread. So a universal rule probably wouldn't work all that well.

I'd suggest that if possible, let the person who started a thread moderate posts in it. Only in the MEP forum of course. That would let the project head, who is almost always who starts the topic, set the line for how much offtopic stuff they want to allow and police the topic themselves. If someone abuses this, I'm sure another user would bring it to mods attention and that situation could be dealt with.

If that's not an option, perhaps a brief explanation of the Report button should be made and stickied in the MEP forum and MEP heads could be encouraged to use it. It's the quickest and simplest way to bring posts to mods attention. It's certainly quicker and easier than leaving the topic, navigating to the mod dropbox, and making a new post about the issue. Although, this assumes a certain known issue has been fixed so that invismods are comfortable dealing with reports. Anyway, most users either don't know about that tool or forget it exists, so it'd need to be brought to their attention. Hell, right about now half the people reading this post are probably thinking 'what report button?'