Take more action in the MEP forums

[Bauzi]

Hey there,

I'm sick of it. When you don't have already some popularity on the org forums you just can't start a MEP these days. You can try, but most likely you will be flooded with negative comments, flame and silly pictures just to bring you down. This seams to go out of hand and ruines a lot of peoples excitement and fun doing such projects. Even simple interest gauge threads often don't have any chance at all.

Let's face it: If you choose to make a project based on something that elitists of a genre dislike you're fucked. Don't even think of making a MEP featuring Tokio Hotel or Emocore.

I don't want to see MEPs with this genre too, but why don't people just post that they're not interested and leave out the flame and than move on to other things? There is no need to pick on the MEP starters Just let them do what they want and let them have fun and at least: Give them a chance to do it right. You might also want to point out what things to do right about coordinating and video quality stuff as well.

I sometimes hear people complain about other people highjacking threads and posting negative comments and spam over and over again. I'm not into forum moderation, but is there any way to request bans of people in certain threads? You can probably ban them from the whole MEP forums, but that somehow might be too much action.

[mirkosp]

It'd help if you posted it in a section where users can reply. Moved.

Now as for an answer... well, some people got banned (after the due warnings) very recently for posting the flame and the images you are referring to, so it's not like the administration encourages this behaviour at all and doesn't take action.
Anyway, even if they don't flame, a MEP won't go well if the coordinator is new and unkown in the community and doesn't expose the concept properly... getting known in the community first would be a great idea, 'cause people would be like "hey, it's that guy, maybe I could give this a try anyway" instead of "well, I don't really know this new user and he doesn't give me enough information... I'll pass."

[Emotive]

Well, those at first seemingly excited people don't turn out to be the brightest of people either.

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... 37&t=97812

I even tried to tell him what mirkosp sayed above did I not?

[EvaFan]

The sad part is one person does it and then others usually just follow suite, in most cases its friends.

Is it so hard to just not post if your not interested? This forum is like a playground to some people it seems. Admins aren't getting paid to babysit, the banhammer should be dropped more often even if its just temp bans. If you want shit like that to stop anyway. I question some of the morality here. I know a majority of the org is teens or younger people but seriously, where does the line get drawn? We could just add 4chan to the front of the sites url these days, It's bad enough that new members are discouraged but when they post a video or try to take up a challenge of coordinating an mep the first thing they get is the same usual people bashing them. They need to realize that the MEP forum is for anyone with an idea regardless as to whether or not the idea meets their expectations/is original. Band mep's as well. I'm sick and fucking tired of people who try to start a band mep and get called out on it for "being another band mep" or being lame music according to them. Don't like it, don't post.

If you want em to change then post them information as to how to do things properly or where to start. If your tired of doing that then just let someone who cares enough to do it, do it. You were a noob once, remember that.

Whether or not they go about it is solely up to them. Atleast you tried. They can go back to youtube at this point where they belong.

[Emotive]

Well, those at first seemingly excited people don't turn out to be the brightest of people either.

And yes, I do mean this part for the majority of them instead of just this one. Why? Because when I first came to this site, no one knowing me and seeing the technical stuff I was unfamiliar with, I wouldn't even consider starting a multi editor project because it just defies logic to do so. And it just takes opening a couple bloody threads and looking at the first posts to know that you need to have an idea of what to do to run a MEP and it's not like "HAY guis donlaod this album and lets make MEP!!1". This thread just proves the results of posting useful advice and flaming are pretty much equivalent when posted towards a human being that's not in the state of mind to think.

[Vivaldi]

Well, those at first seemingly excited people don't turn out to be the brightest of people either.

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... 37&t=97812

I even tried to tell him what mirkosp sayed above did I not?

This is completely regardless, true as it may be, how the hell is "he's stoopid lol" justification for anything? If you think someone's going to be inept just don't join the mep; there's not an 10th forum rule stating "Yeah but if he's a newfag you can ignore the last 11 rules."

[CodeZTM]

I agree with Bauzi. 10 fold.

The MEP forum [and the site as a whole] needs more moderation. It's not just the MEP forum either, it's the announcement thread too. Look at the first page of the CAscadathon thread in the announcements forum, and you'll see blatant trolling and unrelated/nonconstructive crtisism. I mean, I know that the org has always been a tad laid back in the moderation department, but recently it's gotten ridiculous. Anytime anybody new comes rolling in, our resident trolls just post about how shitty thier video is, giving no constructive feedback other than an image of hitler or something from lolcats.

Hell, how long did it take "What's With the Shitty Attitude" thread to get locked before it got ridiculously out of hand?

Just my two cents, and I think that perhaps more mods or stricter guidelines of posting etiqutte needs to be added. I'm not saying we should be nazi-modding the org with word filters and killing posts that have people arguing. I'm just saying that many times it gets way out of hand really quickly, and it takes forever to get it rectified.

[Emotive]

What you four are asking for is pure bloody Fascism. Not even trolling.



HEIL MOD 403

[Vivaldi]

*snip

And Godwin win's again.


The org is not and never was a democracy. Besides, crying about fascism on an internet forum is the hight of sniveling.

[Bauzi]

It's about showing that you can't treat people like this. Do you do the same thing in real life? No. Would you do the same thing in real life? I don't think so and if yes: Shame on you. If you have fun in treating people like this than: Fuck you. I want this to be a place for enjoying a hobby. Making fun of others is not alright. At least not at this amount.

This is completely regardless, true as it may be, how the hell is "he's stoopid lol" justification for anything? If you think someone's going to be inept just don't join the mep; there's not an 10th forum rule stating "Yeah but if he's a newfag you can ignore the last 11 rules."

-> he's a random(!) noob with a random nick which you will never know or talk too. That's why the brain's get turned of and why they do such things. They would NEVER tell them the same things from eye to eye into their face. In the internet you have to expect nothing negative on your behavior. You also have an ignore function if you're getting tired of him asking you why you do all these shitty things.

When I started to announce my videos in the forums I was annoyed that I only got my first comment posted in my 4th vid. First I was simply ingored all the time. It was frustrating, but nowadays I better should be happy, because if I would announce something as new one I can expect a lot of shit comeing down on me. In <2006 you simply got ignored and your announcement died with 0 replies. That's better than now.

You have already A LOT of free speech with your Hitler pictures and sigs. Seriously that's a lot of free speech that you have there.

It'd help if you posted it in a section where users can reply. Moved.

Actually I didn't knew that. Woops.

And yes, I do mean this part for the majority of them instead of just this one. Why? Because when I first came to this site, no one knowing me and seeing the technical stuff I was unfamiliar with, I wouldn't even consider starting a multi editor project because it just defies logic to do so. And it just takes opening a couple bloody threads and looking at the first posts to know that you need to have an idea of what to do to run a MEP and it's not like "HAY guis donlaod this album and lets make MEP!!1". This thread just proves the results of posting useful advice and flaming are pretty much equivalent when posted towards a human being that's not in the state of mind to think.

Tell them in a civilized way and they will understand. If they don't: It's only their fault if they fail.

What you four are asking for is pure bloody Fascism. Not even trolling.

No, we are asking you all to not act like douchebags and act more civilized.

Besides, crying about fascism on an internet forum is the hight of sniveling.

Yeah I saw a lot of it on other forums in the last years.