Beo's Guide to Good Health

[meleechampion]

I fuckin love steak.

Hey, hey health experts.

On the subject of diets, I noticed that all I had to do was cut soda out of mine to lose 40 pounds. EXCEPT now I drink soda again, but I haven't gained any weight back.


WTF IS UP WITH THAT.

[CodeZTM]

RULE #5: Zero Pig/Cow meat or any other red meats.

FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR DIET. I AM GOING TO EAT RED MEAT TILL THE DAY I DIE.

Go right ahead.

[I personally just don't like it dietary-wise because it takes so long to get it out of your system as compared to white meats.]

[Brad]

What if I drink a shitload of Coke, smoke cigarettes, and eat salty food a ton? Is that good?

[Willen]

If you are going to avoid High Fructose Corn Syrup, you might as well avoid anything with any type of added sugar, since that is what HFCS is--a type of sugar (actually a combination of fructose, glucose and other sugars). Let's add anything with -ose in their names like sucrose (sugar), dextrose, glucose, maltose, and anything that is added to a food to sweeten it or to add/improve moisture or texture. Fruit juices are borderline here too, since a major component of the juice is naturally present fructose.

I'd also suggest listing saccharin and acesulfame-K if you are going to avoid aspartame. They are both commonly used in conjunction with aspartame in many diet foods and both have possible health risks. Sucralose (Splenda) is probably the safest artificial sweetener right now if you are avoiding or limiting sugar consumption. The jury is still out on Stevia.

MSG is naturally present in many foods, so avoiding it is practically impossible. Avoiding added MSG is probably a good thing. I'd also avoid stating it causes brain damage unless you can link to a reputable study or article (same goes for the aspartame claim).

More olive oil isn't necessarily better for you. Olive oil is fat, and consuming enough fat is going to make you fat. Stating that "The more olive oil you ingest, the better." implies that I should go to my kitchen and chug the bottle of EVOO I own to improve my health. I guess a gallon a day would be even better. /sarcasm

Rule 5 just smacks of superstition and pseudoscience. This smells like another fad diet.

That being said, I enjoy consuming products that include everything on that list (luckily, I'm not a diabetic). But what I suggest to everyone in general for maintaining good health is getting regular exercise and taking everything in moderation. Blanket statements like those listed above are one of my pet peeves. It assumes that everyone reacts the same to all these foods. Or even people with the same blood type, same race, or same ancestors will have the same reactions.

[ZephyrStar]

I follow most of what is said here. I'm not diabetic, but I do genetically tend towards high blood pressure. I can also tell, if I eat too much salt or anything with MSG, the blood sings in my ears, I get a headache, etc. Thus I eat a diet high in natural vegetable/fruit dishes and don't add any salt or sauces. This + daily exercise has suprised my doctor. He thought I'd have to be on meds by now. I do drink natural green tea with nothing added, and sometimes real coffee, and this does not aggrivate my blood pressure. If I drink soda or those "chemical brew" diet drinks, it goes through the roof.

But in summary, willen is right, everything in moderation, and EXERCISE. This is SO important. It also can help with depression, tiredness, mood, and creativity for that matter. I come up with some of my best ideas when I'm hiking or running. Get the blood flowing, get the endorphins up, and soon you'll be craving it every day.

[Otohiko]

EXERCISE. This is SO important. It also can help with depression, tiredness, mood, and creativity for that matter. I come up with some of my best ideas when I'm hiking or running. Get the blood flowing, get the endorphins up, and soon you'll be craving it every day.

Well I can definitely subscribe to the best ideas part. I thought of "MAMA" while hiking in the mountains one day >__>

I am a little annoyed when people over-promote exercise as an end-all, be-all - like everything else, it's also only part of a healthy lifestyle. I walk like crazy, and at certain points I've tried to pick up regular exercise (like weights etc.). The latter I've never succeeded at working into my life, but walking I can't live without. Sadly, I can't vouch for it being a total solution for mood/depression etc. Some of my absolute worst moods and episodes occur while walking, and I sometimes suspect that my own hormone reactions to exercise make those things worse, not better. That said, I still will never quit my crazy aimless walks - it's kind of a process addiction for me now

What really helps me, of all things not yet mentioned, is sleep. The older/busier I get, the more I realize just how valuable a full night's sleep is. As far as keeping sane and functional, sleep has so far done me a lot more good than exercise.

[Beowulf]

If you are going to avoid High Fructose Corn Syrup, you might as well avoid anything with any type of added sugar, since that is what HFCS is--a type of sugar (actually a combination of fructose, glucose and other sugars). Let's add anything with -ose in their names like sucrose (sugar), dextrose, glucose, maltose, and anything that is added to a food to sweeten it or to add/improve moisture or texture. Fruit juices are borderline here too, since a major component of the juice is naturally present fructose.

I'd also suggest listing saccharin and acesulfame-K if you are going to avoid aspartame. They are both commonly used in conjunction with aspartame in many diet foods and both have possible health risks. Sucralose (Splenda) is probably the safest artificial sweetener right now if you are avoiding or limiting sugar consumption. The jury is still out on Stevia.

MSG is naturally present in many foods, so avoiding it is practically impossible. Avoiding added MSG is probably a good thing. I'd also avoid stating it causes brain damage unless you can link to a reputable study or article (same goes for the aspartame claim).

More olive oil isn't necessarily better for you. Olive oil is fat, and consuming enough fat is going to make you fat. Stating that "The more olive oil you ingest, the better." implies that I should go to my kitchen and chug the bottle of EVOO I own to improve my health. I guess a gallon a day would be even better. /sarcasm

Rule 5 just smacks of superstition and pseudoscience. This smells like another fad diet.

That being said, I enjoy consuming products that include everything on that list (luckily, I'm not a diabetic). But what I suggest to everyone in general for maintaining good health is getting regular exercise and taking everything in moderation. Blanket statements like those listed above are one of my pet peeves. It assumes that everyone reacts the same to all these foods. Or even people with the same blood type, same race, or same ancestors will have the same reactions.

I appreciate your interest. Internet forums are a place for blanket statements, because frankly, asking someone to read years worth of material on the subject isn't reasonable.

That being said, I'll post some links for you to read at your leisure, if you really are interested in reading them, and not just being contrary to a big forum personality.

1. Comparing naturally present sugar in fruit juices to HFCS is like comparing a coca leaf to cocaine. HFCS is refined with chemicals.

2. For the sake of brevity, I didn't include all the other artificial sweeteners, but you are correct. No one knows about Splenda, and stevia tastes like shit.

3. To say that MSG occurs naturally in many foods is not completely true, and that exact statement has been thrown about by food industry people for years. I'll post a link soon.

The Blood Type diet has been around for a long time. Its based on your genetic makeup, not superstition. How about this. You tell me your blood type, and I'll post somethings about it, and you tell me if they are true for you.

JUICY TIP: The US Government has known the dangers and effects of Aspartame since the Vietnam War era. During the war, they wouldn't allow their pilots (or discouraged them) to drink diet sodas the night before a mission because it impaired their ability to fly the aircraft.

[CodeZTM]

The Blood Type diet has been around for a long time. Its based on your genetic makeup, not superstition. How about this. You tell me your blood type, and I'll post somethings about it, and you tell me if they are true for you.

Ok, so I was really skeptical about the blood type diet thing, so I sent an e-mail to my aunt who's a dietitian/nutrition specialist and all around health nut [and the person that helped me come up with my personal plan].

Apparently, this is a pretty widely accepted practice that many people follow. However, she remains slightly skeptical because of lack of clinical trials and not much evidence to back it up. There is also some assertions that the clinical trials were botched because the people that ran the trials just basically called up people and asked how they were doing, rather than running scientific tests to get results.

But the fact of the matter is that it seems to work in theory, and that many times it seems to help in cases where real plans don't work.

EXERCISE. This is SO important. It also can help with depression, tiredness, mood, and creativity for that matter. I come up with some of my best ideas when I'm hiking or running. Get the blood flowing, get the endorphins up, and soon you'll be craving it every day.

Agreed.

what I suggest to everyone in general for maintaining good health is getting regular exercise and taking everything in moderation. Blanket statements like those listed above are one of my pet peeves.

But that in and of itself is a blanket statement.

However, I do have an issue with this "moderation" business. True, everything needs to be in moderation, but saying "moderation" is just too easy.

You can moderately eat at McDonalds [or just plain fried/unhealthy foods] everyday, but your health is going to be a heck of a lot worse than eating moderately following Beo's guidelines. Dieting isn't all about weight loss, it's also about health. So even with moderate eating, you can get clogged arteries, diabetes and other stuff that could be easily avoided.

My family has a long line of diabetes [which is why I originally started my own plan], and my grandfather moderately drank sodas and ate other unhealthy things [he was and is still a very thin looking man] and even excersized every day, but he still got it when he could have easily avoided it.


But then again, the thing is I agree with you Willian. Blanket statements like Beo's rules and my own guidelines don't work for everyone. Every human has a different body and different systems. My dad can quit drinking coke for a week and lose 15 pounds, while I would only lose maybe 3. [True story]

I think the original purpose of the thread was to share health ideas for people that are having difficulty getting healthy in dietary terms, and see if maybe something like Beo's guidelines [or mine, or Willians, or Zephyrstar's or even Meleechampion's] would help in that regard.

[I like this discussion. It's very civil and nice. Now anyway. ]

[8bit_samurai]

I dunno much about diets, but this guy seems to recommend eating two meals instead of three, having lots of fruit and water, and a few other things here and there. I don't plan on living that long, but any diet that has pancakes in it sounds good to me

[Beowulf]

The purpose of my guidelines was that no matter who you are, what race you are, your exercise regime, and any other contributing factor, if you follow all of those rules, you are much better off than if you didn't.