What is art?

[hasteroth]

I'm gonna say what I said in IRC.

Todd's just bored.

This is an age old debate.

Stop trying to revive it

It's not going to end

You aren't going to reach consensus

So stop this pointless arguing

Can't you see it's tearing us apart?

[NS]

You didn't say that in IRC at all, you fucking debated it in IRC. Pretty sure me or Godix talked about how it had been brought up 20 different times.

[hasteroth]

You didn't say that in IRC at all, you fucking debated it in IRC. Pretty sure me or Godix talked about how it had been brought up 20 different times.

Oh i didn't argue with godix about art.

I argued with Viv about logic.

[hasteroth]

er I read that wrong.

I didn't really argue about art.

I tried to get Todd to shut up.

[8bit_samurai]

Art is a mere illusion created to separate man from beast, the civil from the savage. Two men fight each other to the death over a woman is barbaric and selfish, but scribe it on paper and it is poetry. A naked woman in public is lewd and disgraceful, but form it from stone it and it is a sculpture. A smiling woman is plain and ordinary, but interpreted on a canvas it is a painting. A cheetah pounces on a prey killing it is gruesome, but put it in film and it is cinematic. A man tells his unsuccessful attempts at what he does in his life vaguely is boring and unimaginative, but put it in song and it is Linkin Park. etc. etc.

Functionless art is simply tolerated vandalism. We are the vandals.

I like this quote. This is a very nice quote.

[blabbler]

anything banksy touches.

[NS]

I was bansky once.

[BasharOfTheAges]

Sorry. The art community recognizes readymades and "found art" as art. No planning or forethought are put into them. They are ordinary objects simply declared art by someone. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!?!?

That would fall under conceptual art, in which the "object" is not the whole of the art piece itself, but rather a method by which to communicate an idea. The idea and its relation to the object being the human creation.

So you're saying the utilitarian device itself, made for a primary, non-artistic function is not what's art in the process, it is the act of calling it such (i.e. the performance of stating it). I call bullshit grasping-at-straws reasoning on that one, sorry.

the word art is a label - one that (due to constant questioning and pushing by people that wanted to announce the fact that it was poorly defined for centuries) has little definitive meaning and that people apply to things to impart the idea that they value them. It's a concept like "faith" or "opinion" that serves the purpose of deferring logical discussion by saying logic does not apply.

[Vax]

Fuck, another thread about this?

[mirkosp]

You ain’t artsier than me