[Quit deleting my posts]

[hasteroth]

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... m.php?f=22

[hasteroth]

Oh Reda I actually know who did that. He's not from #AMV. So nothing can be done about it. He posted it on /b/ too.

Yeah, he was from #katawa-shoujo. Name: Climatic

[-Reda-]

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... m.php?f=22

What if its a private or personal issue? I honestly would hate using the drop box if I could just get on AIM or a special IRC channel and go "Hey this is here and this is bad can you take care of it?" Its a much nicer touch and I actually know who I'm talking to. A moderator drop box is eh...it could also be offensive. For example what if you made a stupid post and I went "Hey hasteroth is being an asshole in this thread can you come take care of it?" Or "Hasteroth is harassing me". You could come post "NO IM NOT HES LYING" or more hate speech or whatever.

Besides, when you put something in the drop box that seems to me like a "get to it when you can thing" which I suppose applies to certain things; I dunno, I guess I'm just one of those people who would rather speak more directly to the staff, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[hasteroth]

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... m.php?f=22

What if its a private or personal issue? I honestly would hate using the drop box if I could just get on AIM or a special IRC channel and go "Hey this is here and this is bad can you take care of it?" Its a much nicer touch and I actually know who I'm talking to. A moderator drop box is eh...it could also be offensive. For example what if you made a stupid post and I went "Hey hasteroth is being an asshole in this thread can you come take care of it?" Or "Hasteroth is harassing me". You could come post "NO IM NOT HES LYING" or more hate speech or whatever.

Besides, when you put something in the drop box that seems to me like a "get to it when you can thing" which I suppose applies to certain things; I dunno, I guess I'm just one of those people who would rather speak more directly to the staff, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Well yeah I see what you mean. But you can't reply to topics in the drop box. But if it's a little more private, like Private Messages I assume... You make a good point. Every forum I'm a member of, except this one, the mods aren't hidden. Though I have 2 different accounts on the ones I moderate

[-Reda-]

Well yeah I see what you mean. But you can't reply to topics in the drop box. But if it's a little more private, like Private Messages I assume... You make a good point. Every forum I'm a member of, except this one, the mods aren't hidden. Though I have 2 different accounts on the ones I moderate

I actually just had a large discussion with Mirko about this. It seems to me that moderators accept the roles of being moderators without considering what that does for them, which is bullshit. Like you have two separate accounts, obviously to avoid...something. But if you want to avoid that, just stay being a regular member. Accept your position as moderator and take responsibility for that. If you don't want that, theres plenty of other people who'd be willing to moderate.

Its like you want the powers of a moderator, without all the consequences, which is childish.

As for the drop box thing, nothings stopping them from making new posts either though. Even if you can't directly reply you can still make more posts. Again that probably wouldn't happen, I'm just saying "What if?"

Mirko also informed me that my moderator count was wrong, and that it includes admins as well. My question to that would be why is it that I need to be privy to secret information to even get in contact about a problem?
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... 14&t=91646
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Apparently that list is out of date as well...so how are we supposed to even know who we should talk to?

[hasteroth]

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/m ... de=leaders
And this list is out of date too.

[mirkosp]

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... 14&t=91646
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Apparently that list is out of date as well...so how are we supposed to even know who we should talk to?

Updated that list with janzki, oto and me as visible mods. That's about it for the updates it needed I think, since we are the only other visimods that I know of. As for the list hast linked, I don't think I can update that.

[-Reda-]

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... 14&t=91646
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Apparently that list is out of date as well...so how are we supposed to even know who we should talk to?

Updated that list with janzki, oto and me as visible mods. That's about it for the updates it needed I think, since we are the only other visimods that I know of. As for the list hast linked, I don't think I can update that.

Good, nice to see things being done around here. I still have two questions that haven't been answered yet.

1) Why do we have hidden moderators?

2) Why does it take a slew of complaining for moderators to do something they should have done in the first place?

I actually have a third thing to add to this but it should probably get a separate thread.
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... 16&t=95872

[godix]

Oh come on, getting ahold of mods is not difficult. There's mod dropbox, there's the alert system, there's pms to known active mods, most have easily findable email addresses, and many of the mods hang out in IRC or one of the instant messengers. Hell, if you really want to make sure they notice just make a thread in GAMV with the subject of 'KEVMASTER IS A FAGGOT' and describe your problem in the post. You may not be able to get ahold of a mod the very instant you want to, but modding never was about always being able to contact a mod every second of the day. There are plenty of ways of notifying them about an issue and they'll see it within a few hours.

Also keep in mind you don't really need to know everything that goes on. If the mods take care of something than that's it, there's no reason everyone should know exactly what was done. For example, if before this thread I had asked a mod about your banned I probably would have gotten brushed off and that's the way it should be. Mods shouldn't be airing issues about users in public, unless the user brought it up first as you did here. As for other stuff, we aren't in charge of running the org so there's no real reason we should know the minute details of it.

[-Reda-]

"There's mod dropbox" = Already explained why I don't personally like the dropbox
"There's the alert system"= No idea what that is
"There's pms to known active mods" = Already explained how my pms went unanswered
"Many of the mods hang out in IRC or one of the instant messengers" = Banned from the IRC

Also keep in mind you don't really need to know everything that goes on. If the mods take care of something than that's it, there's no reason everyone should know exactly what was done. For example, if before this thread I had asked a mod about your banned I probably would have gotten brushed off and that's the way it should be. Mods shouldn't be airing issues about users in public, unless the user brought it up first as you did here. As for other stuff, we aren't in charge of running the org so there's no real reason we should know the minute details of it.

No idea what this paragraph has to do with my post.