Why tying "video quality" to frame size and rate is dumb.

[ZephyrStar]

480@24P is fine =|

Sad thing is I know I'll get hell for it when/if I release it.

Encode it in low bitrate xvid. You'll steal the thunder before anyone can point it out :p

[mirkosp]

Chris... you were doing so great... but then... why deen...

deen is godlike. It gets rid of so much of the subtle noise in animation, really makes for a clean frame.

"THROW SOME DEEN UP ON THAT BITCH"

Deen kills detail like a bitch. The subtle noise isn't a bad thing per se: without the so-called noise, you wouldn't have the gradients, and deen, in fact, tends to kill them. I can understand how people wants to make their filesize smaller when filtering, but killing a gradient for compressibility isn't exactly a good thing imho. I'd prefer a bigger filesize with a perfect gradient.

[-Reda-]

Chris... you were doing so great... but then... why deen...

deen is godlike. It gets rid of so much of the subtle noise in animation, really makes for a clean frame.

"THROW SOME DEEN UP ON THAT BITCH"

Deen kills detail like a bitch. The subtle noise isn't a bad thing per se: without the so-called noise, you wouldn't have the gradients, and deen, in fact, tends to kill them. I can understand how people wants to make their filesize smaller when filtering, but killing a gradient for compressibility isn't exactly a good thing imho. I'd prefer a bigger filesize with a perfect gradient.

If you're worried about gradients use the "a3d" parameter, its designed to handle footage with gradients in them. If I recall correctly anyway...

[mirkosp]

If you're worried about gradients use the "a3d" parameter, its designed to handle footage with gradients in them. If I recall correctly anyway...

Meh, fft3dgpu() is so much better to deal with noise anyway...

[Koopiskeva]

A '9' in quality is NOT BAD.

good video quality and sound quality (not a 10 though because its not 720p or 1080p).

He's not saying anything about the score. That's not the point of this. Merely the correlation that high resolution does not equal quality. Pay attention and stop misreading into it. You too facepalm boy. Yes, you, joey, Mr. up-and-coming quality elitist.

The 3-D part could have been made at 720p.

The 3D part was rendered way above 720 or even 1080p, but for the purposes of the video and actual video playback, the final resolution was set to 848x480, just like all the other sources in the video. Upscaling the rest of the footage to meet "fake HD" standards is dumb and there is no arguing that.

I was only saying that there ARE bluray rips of shit accessible

Of the sources used, no. Not all of them are available in Blu-ray. And as I've said, upscaling the rest of the footage to meet "fake HD" standards is dumb.

Also,

People seem to miss that TestosteROS is strictly used as an example here.

[dreamawake]

You too facepalm boy. Yes, you, joey, Mr. up-and-coming quality elitist.

[Koopiskeva]

If you actually looked like that, then no

[Vivaldi]

Also,

People seem to miss that TestosteROS is strictly used as an example here.

You can say that all you want, but it's really common knowledge that upscaling decreases quality. This thread isn't anything more than place to Baww about the fact that some people didn't like your video, under the thinly veiled guise of some sort of public service presentation.

[mirkosp]

Also,

People seem to miss that TestosteROS is strictly used as an example here.

You can say that all you want, but it's really common knowledge that upscaling decreases quality. This thread isn't anything more than place to Baww about the fact that some people didn't like your video, under the thinly veiled guise of some sort of public service presentation.

Sorry but I can't understand who are you supporting. Those saying that upscale is dumb or those that want us to upscale tracks (@matt: sorry man, not everything in the mep is out on brd ) because 720p is better.
Either way, I'm not bothered by the vote itself actually, it's more about wondering why it was lowered for resolution matters when the resolution was due to the fact that half of the sources were dvd only.

[Vivaldi]

Sorry but I can't understand who are you supporting. Those saying that upscale is dumb or those that want us to upscale tracks (@matt: sorry man, not everything in the mep is out on brd ) because 720p is better.
Either way, I'm not bothered by the vote itself actually, it's more about wondering why it was lowered for resolution matters when the resolution was due to the fact that half of the sources were dvd only.

The quality's a non-issue here. The issue is the huge bitchfest people are cooking up since they apparently can't take an opinion with an ounce of grace or complacency. That's my problem.

As for the issue at hand? I think upscaling for the sake of having it bigger is stupid, though if it were a case of having 5 out of 6 sources in natural 720p, then the 6th should be scaled up with quality management for the betterment of the video as a whole. Obviously I don't think that was the case here, that's just my opinion on the issue in general


As for the video itself, a couple of times I went "ooh, this looks pretty good", there were a couple places where I thought "that looks kinda ~meh" And it was mostly average inbetween. I think a 8 or 9 is just fine for this. And certainly not worth getting defensive over.

Just so you know, I have no issue with you, think you're reacting with a perfectly italian mature attitude.