Exporting Issues

[Vax]

I recently swtiched to adobe premiere and I editied something but when I export with lagarith, I get these wierd glitches and the lagarith freezes my KMPlayer along with my computer when I play it.

Here is the glitch I get.



And when I try to compress in VirtualDubMod, they say the crash details(their best guess as to cause)
An out-of-bounds memory access (access violation) occurred in module 'lagarith'...
...while decompressing video frame 20 with "Lagarith lossless codec" [biCompression=5347414c] (VideoSource.cpp:1627)...
...while running thread "Processing" (thread.cpp:120).


I really don't think it's Premiere. I switched from Avisynth 2.5.7 to 2.5.8, though I doubt thats the problem. Should I try going back to check?

[Qyot27]

What version of Lagarith are you using, and which version of Premiere? I used to come across these errors routinely if I tried to give Lagarith files to TMPGEnc. I never tried exporting from Premiere with Lagarith, though. It could be as simple as updating Lagarith - or it could be a Premiere problem (I know that in the TMPGEnc example, it was definitely TMPGEnc at fault, as I could handle those same Lagarith files in VDub without any nasty glitching up).

Commonly I don't make Lagarith encodes until it's time to archive the master. Up until that point I use HuffYUV (in RGB24 mode), or the YV12 HuffYUV* that can be encoded by ffdshow. If you use Lagarith for just its YV12 capabilities, then I would suggest trying YV12 HuffYUV, especially with the adaptive huffman tables option set, because while there still is a size difference, it's a lot closer to Lagarith than standard HuffYUV is (and on a single-core setup, it's faster than Lagarith is; dunno about multi-core).


*officially, it's called ffvhuff; an alternate name is also HuffYV12.

[Kariudo]

depends on which version of premiere you are using.
All the premiere pro versions (through cs3, haven't heard anything on cs4) have exporting issues which ends up giving you random colored junk in random positions of random frames.

your best bet (when using any version of pro) is to export uncompressed video (provided you have the space...should take a few GB depending on the length). Huffy/Lag work for some people, but I (and many others, Scintilla aside) haven't been able to get a good export out of pro 1.5 using huffy or lagarith

debugmode frameserver may be another option

[Vax]

The problem happened with huffy as well. The version of lagarith I use is 1.0.0.1. I've updated and downgraded it. It's possible my Premiere settings? I use Adobe Premiere Elements 7. The problem happens with every codec I try to export with.
I'll try some of your suggestions now.

Kariudo: Can tell me a little bit about how Debugmode Frameserver works.

[Vax]

Sucess
The HuffYV12 worked. So I can't export with lagarith or what?

[Qyot27]

The version of lagarith I use is 1.0.0.1.

That version is extremely outdated. The current version is 1.3.19

But, considering you said HuffYV12 worked, then all is good. If you need a Lagarith encode just open the file in VDubMod, select Fast Recompress so it preserves the colorspace, choose Lagarith, and have at it.

However, look for an option in Premiere (probably in Project Settings or the Export Settings, although since I use 6.5 I don't know if newer versions differ on that) that says 'Recompress'. Make sure it's checked, and try the exports again. Not having it checked causes problems if there's differences in the colorspace of your source files (i.e. if the source files are YV12 or YUY2 or something, since Premiere might attempt to just straight copy them if they were left alone and in other sections it might not if there were effects or whatnot applied), and can really screw up an export.

[Zarxrax]

The most recent version of lagarith should fix that issue.

[Vax]

The most recent version of lagarith should fix that issue.

Possibly, but not in my case. I downloaded the latest version of lagarith and went to see if that would fix my problem. Well it didn't. I tried the YV12, YUY2, and Reduced Resolution modes, but they caused a glitch at the bottom of the clip. When I tried the RGBA and RGB mode they caused the glitch you see above.
I don't absolutely need lagarith but I prefer it but for now Huffy is fine.

[Vax]

I failed to realized but huffy has a glitch occuring as well. They're very thin strips at the very bottom of the clips. Would exporting mpeg-2 be as good as exporting lossless? If anybody has a way to fix this problem, it'll be preferable

[Kariudo]

mpeg2 won't be as good as lossless. That said, I haven't tried exporting like that...leave it as a very last resort.

Debugmode frameserver is...well, a frameserver (avisynth is another frameserver). Debugmode frameserver takes your timeline and hands it off to another program, like vdubmod for instance, acting sort of like a translator.

The advantage here is that instead of using premiere pro's less than stellar exporting you can use vdubmod to "export" for you (which should get rid of any problems)