Opions about originality

Nappy · Post by **Nappy** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 12:45 am

If I make a dbz vid with star wipes instead of dissolves will that be original?

The_Mad_Hatter · Post by **The_Mad_Hatter** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 5:06 am

There's kinda two sides to this from what I can see. On the one hand most "knock off" or "copy cat" videos tend to just be shitty. Let's not kid ourselves here, I can't even remember when I last downloaded a GOOD DBZ AMV...in fact I don't think I've EVER downloaded a DBZ AMV that I would give over a 7 overall.

And then on the other hand If I see a DBZ/Linkin Park AMV or any overly used idea I think I hold it to a much higher standard than if I were to download a lesser used combination. And it's not always just about the music/anime, but sometimes just within the anime itself. I mean I've seen dozens upon dozens upon DOZENS of Neon Genesis vids that pretty much all used the same 25 clips. Sometimes I get the impression that people are just ass raping other peeps vids for parts and then slappin on their favorite song. o_O

On another note there are also some peeps like me who like to do "remakes". In fact my first two videos are both based conceptually on two other AMVs that I found (used the same anime and music). Both of which I thought were absolutely horrible in design and implementation, but the underlying concept was really good. Personally, I think it'd be possible to have a REALLY incredible DBZ/Linkin Park video...I just haven't seen it yet. At some point here soon though, I may just decide to take a crack at it. *shrugs*

Aetherfukz · Post by **Aetherfukz** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 7:43 am

Well I always try to be as objective as I can when reviewing videos. But that's the prob with human being - noone can ever be truly objective. But that's another matter...
Anways, I usually don't take into consideration if I like the song used of if I don't. I mean, like DJ Fritz' Beboppin' video with that Lalala-song from Kylie Hottie Minogue. Oh how I hate that song. But when watching the video, I enjoy the song, because the video and the song are kinda made for each other.

And for the overused Anime/Songs... well... if the way the video is done was used many times before, I'm sure to score much lower. But when it is something special, it doesn't matter to me if the combination is already overused. Like the one Linkin Park - In the end - End of Evangelion video (don't remember the title right now).

As always, just my 2 (euro)cent...

Sub0 · Post by **Sub0** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 11:45 am

Tom the Fish wrote:http://www.animemusicvideos.org/legacy/ ... guide3.htm

I agree. Originality should be judged on how often the _idea_ has been done, not the source.

Tom

orig shouldn't be how often anything imo.... it should be how well it displays what the song/ title is ABOUT (never heard somebody say 'now THAT'S original, they mean the topic fits with the title etc. so well that it's SICK). If it was how often something was you'd be changing it every three months!

Bluemantis · Post by **Bluemantis** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 2:10 pm

Aetherfukz wrote: Anways, I usually don't take into consideration if I like the song used of if I don't. I mean, like DJ Fritz' Beboppin' video with that Lalala-song from Kylie Hottie Minogue. Oh how I hate that song. But when watching the video, I enjoy the song, because the video and the song are kinda made for each other.

When I wrote this form Beboppin' was on of the songs that made me think, I was starting to see the cowboy bebo videos overflow. It was DJ Fritz' Beboppin' and Taskmaster's Phatty girl videos that made me think, "Hey two great videos and completely origanal ideas without getting tired of the anime". You can wacth both these videos back to back and it wont feel redundant.

FirestormXIII · Post by **FirestormXIII** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 6:16 pm

(NERD Studios) Arturo wrote:The biggest improvement that I think most people could make in their opinion-giving is to outline why they gave all the numerical ratings that they did somewhere in the text of the opinion, probably in the general comments. Originality is just one of the often unexplained numbers that an opinion giver will throw at you. I've often wondered what different people's standards for capture are as well...

People don't explain why they give certain scores? That's odd, as I do so in every one of the opinions I give. I also can't recall anyone who's given me a review not explaining why either.

/Methinks more people should read the opinions guide.

mexicanjunior · Post by **mexicanjunior** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 8:11 pm

FirestormXIII wrote:People don't explain why they give certain scores? That's odd, as I do so in every one of the opinions I give. I also can't recall anyone who's given me a review not explaining why either.

/Methinks more people should read the opinions guide.

I do as well. It's always good to give at least a sentence to each category explaining why it scored that way.

projecto2501 · Post by **projecto2501** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 12:45 am

I agree, my Eva video got a 4 for originality from some jackass because "it used the same dozen sceens as all the others." Well, excuse me, and kindly show me a decent video that doesn't.

Eek-1 · Post by **Eek-1** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 1:22 am

Then, there are some people who used the opinion feature to rant about something that had nothing to do with the video itself.

Why? To improve your opinion score? =P

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 3:33 am

To make a long story short, I judge all the vids that I see on a case by case basis.