Masking: Needed or not?

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Post by guy07 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:01 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:you don't need masking, but you can mask.
Maybe you can. Me .... not so much. >.>;

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Post by Pwolf » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:12 am

Vaxum wrote:
76 wrote:Is that all? Man, I thought editing was hard. I'm gonna go make an amv even more awesome than Zarxraxs' vid
You wish
Its already been done... It's called Project Genius...


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Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:04 am

Well, Masking would not be required if the studios just send us all the footage we need without any of the backgrounds or other elements that we want to hid out of the video...

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Post by Mr Pilkington » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:33 am

Moonie wrote:Editing while drunk is cool but isn't essential to make a good amv
Don't lie to them.
It's one step beyond cool and is a requirement to make a good amv.

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Post by Vax » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:12 pm

Mr Pilkington wrote:
Moonie wrote:Editing while drunk is cool but isn't essential to make a good amv
Don't lie to them.
It's one step beyond cool and is a requirement to make a good amv.
Indeed

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Post by DriftRoot » Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:58 pm

As a few others have mentioned, a lot comes down to how much bang you're getting for your buck. I spent over 100 hours on 10 seconds of a very simple AMV that I eventually ditched. That's horrifing. I also spent over 100 hours on a 2-minute AMV with a lot of labor-intensive components. That's not really too bad. A lot also depends on the individual - what one person can accomplish in 100 hours probably does not equal what another can.

Then there's the calendar time stamp, which for me has more influence over reaching the AMV finish line than how many hours I've spent running the race. Anything over 4-5 months on an AMV equals massive burnout for me. Right now I'm burned out on stuff I haven't even started, just because I've been thinking about them and listening to the music for months and months. So for me to tackle a really complex project that would take half a year or more to finish is really asking too much. It bugs me, because it means there are AMVs I can't make, but on the other hand it takes some pressure off, because I'm being realistic about what I can accomplish.

Final word: There would be a lot more decent AMVs in the world if more people spent more time on them.
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Post by DriftRoot » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:56 am

......

and my reply got thrown into the wrong forum..... -_- WELL THEN:

Look at it backwards: Can you make an AMV without masking?

Yes. In fact there are a ton more AMVs without masking than WITH, so obviously masking is not essential to making AMVs.

How can one possibly even theorize that an AMV without masking is...somehow...not an AMV?

*mutter*
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Post by dreamawake » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:16 pm

DriftRoot wrote:......

and my reply got thrown into the wrong forum..... -_- WELL THEN:

Look at it backwards: Can you make an AMV without masking?

Yes. In fact there are a ton more AMVs without masking than WITH, so obviously masking is not essential to making AMVs.

How can one possibly even theorize that an AMV without masking is...somehow...not an AMV?

*mutter*
x2

Stupidest question I've heard in weeks.
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Post by Zero Link » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:38 pm

godix wrote:Masking is absolutely required. Most videos are done to anime we've all seen before so unless you modify the footage we'll be sitting here bored. Been there, seen that, have the t-shirt and so on. So masking and other effects are vital to a good AMV. I mean without masking and other effects what do you have to draw peoples interest? Good scene choice? Editing well to the music? Bah, who cares about those things? Put masking in every video you make, even if there's no real reason to mask something.
Made the most sense, think about it. :D

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Post by EvaFan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:46 pm

Zero Link wrote:
godix wrote:Masking is absolutely required. Most videos are done to anime we've all seen before so unless you modify the footage we'll be sitting here bored. Been there, seen that, have the t-shirt and so on. So masking and other effects are vital to a good AMV. I mean without masking and other effects what do you have to draw peoples interest? Good scene choice? Editing well to the music? Bah, who cares about those things? Put masking in every video you make, even if there's no real reason to mask something.
Made the most sense, think about it. :D
To be honest, I actually can't tell if godix is being cynical here or actually being truthful. I've enjoyed alot of amv's without any kind of FX just cause of the way they edited it to a certain song. Sometimes the song is all the difference you need if you edit well enough.

I'ma take a random guess that he's just being cynical again.
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