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Post by CodeZTM » Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:58 am

You're falling into the same trap that the religious fall into. You expect to have an answer provided for you BEFORE it's proven to answer anything. And proof doesn't come in the form of "faith". Proof is like the sensation of drowning because you can't breath under water. Proof is like holding your hand in a flame and knowing that fire burns.
And you wonder why relgious people get pissed off so easily. :roll:

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Post by Otohiko » Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:19 pm

Also, I think Jasper was talking more about theory than about faith. There's a distinction. And there's also a startling amount of useful, scientific stuff based on theory rather than fact. There is also a distinction there.
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Post by aesling » Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:24 pm

Sukunai, I like how you keep insisting that our opinions are worthless and that you don't care about them, but you create an entire thread to continue an argument (or several arguments, depending on how you look at it). If you don't care, why are you still posting about it? What the hell? Seriously.







Oh, and never try to use similies again; that was just terrible.
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Post by jasper-isis » Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:30 pm

I was merely saying that we haven't yet learned all that there is to learn. Therefore there's no point in getting cocky and thinking that anyone who presents an argument contrary to the facts isn't worth listening to.

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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:46 pm

There are "unprovables" too that, by the very way they are phrased, can be neither proven nor disproved and never will. Those are entirely separate from logic and reason but are often used to try to counter logic and reason in argument.
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Post by Prodigi » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:27 am

You want to argue about proof?

WHERE ARE THE UNICORN FOSSILS?!

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Post by JaddziaDax » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:42 pm

unicorns are just goats with one horn :P

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