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As much as I hate to admit it, Bashar has a good point. I see where you're coming from Guy, and I agree with you up to a point.

I think that there isn't a person alive that couldn't find a way to be as intelligent as anybody else. The problem is that some people DON'T have that drive to be as intelligent. For those that lack the drive, they need occupations to fill that lack of drive. (EDIT: I just realized that I forgot to mention those with mental disabilities, and that don't have the ability to gain intelligence. For all purposes, just consider when I say "a person alive" I mean a "normal" person capable of intelligent thoughts and has a capability to learn)

I remember an old debate I had with a good friend of mine regarding this same subject. We came to this agreement (after about two hours of bickering)

"People has the capability of being whoever they want to be, they simply lack the drive necessary to do so."

For example, I will admit that I'm overweight. I would like to be able to lose some of the extra weight and get in better shape, but I simply lack the drive to do so. It's a similar concept with intelligence.

So for the "dumb" people, we have occupations that can fill their needs (like Bashar said), and still not leave them on the streets homeless and without a job. But we also offer institutions to give those with the drive to get an education and find intelligence (like Guy said).

That's at least what I believe anyway.

[Niotex]

"Black holes are not a naturally occurring phenomenon. They are the results of failed high energy physics experiments of other sentient races."

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[guy07]

Hm ... I don't think you quite understood what I was saying. I'll say it again: There is no such things as dumb people. Just people who are smart in different ways. Yes, some people are better at solving complex equations, others at verbalizing thoughts and concepts, others yet at expressing thought through a visual image. As chrono said, people lack drives to acquire certain skills. People are for the most part products of their environments.
Take the child from a homeless drug addict mother and you bet your ass he/she could be a world class linguist (well, assuming his mothers drug use didn't leave any brain damage.)
And one more thing, I'd consider anyone who can't do a task as simple as making hamburgers for a living to be rather dumb. Funny how things look from different perspectives, hm? Like I said, different types of smart.

Now who looks dumb?

.... sorry, that was mean >_<;
Lets try to refrain from insulting each other, hm? : /

[BasharOfTheAges]

So I take it you don't buy the idea that some people are better at something than you could ever be no matter how much you tried. The "proven" fact that some people are faster, stronger, more... springy than others can have the hope of being? That, there are superior beings that no measure of drive can overcome? This is generally accepted as true.

I assume you also don't ascribe to the belief that one's drive to succeed is part of who they are - a defining characteristic that's already taken into account when quantifying them?

[guy07]

That's true. And quite possible. But I believe that peoples motives have be taken into account too. Like a goal. Even if you have talent, without a purpose you won't be that amazing.
Bah, too much effort spent on one subject. I met a dude today fresh outa India, he's a hardcore Muslim and doesn't believe in any evolution theories. I was like "....wait, what?" lol I don't think i've ever met someone who didn't believe that we evolved from another species.

[CodeZTM]

Guy, it's really hard to concentrate on what your saying when you having a bobbing head just to the left of the post. >_< Just throwing that out there.

And what did the India dude have to do with anything?

[guy07]

Haha, yeah must be hard to take anything i say serious with that avatar >_< lol
I forgot to type the rest ... uh, right. And also, I forgot what I was going to say. So yeah ... Anyone else got any crazy ideas they want to throw into the ring?

[Copycat_Revolver]

Haha, yeah must be hard to take anything i say serious with that avatar >_< lol
I forgot to type the rest ... uh, right. And also, I forgot what I was going to say. So yeah ... Anyone else got any crazy ideas they want to throw into the ring?

The mark of a true guy07 thread.

[guy07]

Haha, yeah must be hard to take anything i say serious with that avatar >_< lol
I forgot to type the rest ... uh, right. And also, I forgot what I was going to say. So yeah ... Anyone else got any crazy ideas they want to throw into the ring?

The mark of a true guy07 thread.

Hm ... i feel sort of hungry.

[Fall_Child42]

Haha, yeah must be hard to take anything i say serious with that avatar >_< lol
I forgot to type the rest ... uh, right. And also, I forgot what I was going to say. So yeah ... Anyone else got any crazy ideas they want to throw into the ring?

The mark of a true guy07 thread.

Hm ... i feel sort of hungry.

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