Applying a Certain Effect to EVERYTHING

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Post by JaddziaDax » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:49 am

JaddziaDax wrote:avisynth, what it is and how to use it - that might narrow it down a bit for you....

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Post by sayde » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:52 am

It's hard to be more specific and clearer than that.

1.) click on the clip with the effect or filter you would like to apply to everything.
2.) Copy this clip by either pressing ctrl+c, right clicking on the clip and choosing the copy command, or by navigating to "edit"-->"copy"
3.)highlight all clips you want to apply the effects to on the timeline. You can hold down the shift key and click on clips individually to highlight them, or you can press and hold the left mouse key and drag the mouse icon across the clips you'd like to highlight.
4.) Right click on the clips you just highlighted and pick the option that says "paste attributes".

Sorry if you still don't understand, but I don't think I can explain it any better than that.

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Post by Typhoon859 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:55 am

sayde wrote:It's hard to be more specific and clearer than that.

1.) click on the clip with the effect or filter you would like to apply to everything.
2.) Copy this clip by either pressing ctrl+c, right clicking on the clip and choosing the copy command, or by navigating to "edit"-->"copy"
3.)highlight all clips you want to apply the effects to on the timeline. You can hold down the shift key and click on clips individually to highlight them, or you can press and hold the left mouse key and drag the mouse icon across the clips you'd like to highlight.
4.) Right click on the clips you just highlighted and pick the option that says "paste attributes".

Sorry if you still don't understand, but I don't think I can explain it any better than that.
It's not the computer I can;t get around, lol. I don't understand what you're talking about? Is this in Premiere CS3 that you're telling me to do this? If not, it's too late to do this to the video files themselves because the AMV is already finished.

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Post by sayde » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:57 am

Typhoon859@GMail.com wrote: Is this in Premiere CS3 that you're telling me to do this?
yep. It's pretty handy.

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Post by Typhoon859 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:57 am

JaddziaDax wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote:avisynth, what it is and how to use it - that might narrow it down a bit for you....
I can;t learn something when every line is just a bunch of facts that I don't see. That's something you do to memorize and answer the questions on a test. Reading what that says doesn't mean I'll be able to apply it in any way when it comes down to doing w/e it is I need to do. The explanation in the beginning of what AVISynth is was just as vague as my understanding of it.

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Post by Typhoon859 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:00 am

sayde wrote:
Typhoon859@GMail.com wrote: Is this in Premiere CS3 that you're telling me to do this?
yep. It's pretty handy.
OH!! WAIT!!! I didn't understand what you were saying because I didn't get the first step. That's why the rest didn't make sense. Lol, you told me the three ways of how to copy something XD

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Post by Typhoon859 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:38 am

sayde wrote:
Typhoon859@GMail.com wrote: Is this in Premiere CS3 that you're telling me to do this?
yep. It's pretty handy.
Actually, I just did it but what happens is, it negates some of the other effects suing that method.

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Post by Ashyukun » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:15 pm

Typhoon859@GMail.com wrote: Actually, I just did it but what happens is, it negates some of the other effects suing that method.
Yup. You're pasting new effects over them, so that's only logical. There may be a Paste Special option to allow you to just add the new properties... but I don't remember (I don't use it very often, and I'm not sitting in front of my editing box).

As for AviSynth.... the link JaddziaDax gave (several times) makes perfect sense to me, but then at the same time I'm fairly well versed in it so it had better make sense to me. I have my doubts I can make it any clearer, but I can try.

AviSynth is, in effect, a video processing scripting language. You take a text file, write a list of commands in it, and save it with the extension .avs. If you've installed the AviSynth plugin for Premiere (which the AMVApp does for you), Premiere will read that file as if it were a video file just like a .avi (assuming you've given it valid commands within that file).

But, it's probably easier to show how it works in a practical example, since reading descriptions doesn't seem to be your thing. If you have AviSynth installed (the AMVApp installs it), try this.

Find a video file on your hard drive that you can play with Windows Media Player. I'd recommend an AMV, since they're usually encoded such that this will work well. Go to the directory where it is located, and open up Notepad. In notepad, enter the following (minus quotes of course and replacing FILENAME with the FULL filename of the video file, i.e. ThisIsAnAMV.avi):

DirectShowSource("FILENAME")

Now, in Notepad, go to File->Save as and save the file in the same directory as the video file as "testscript.avs", and change the 'Save As Type' setting from the default "Text Document" to "All Files". You should now have the file testscript.avs sitting in the directory where your video file is.

Next, open Premiere and create a new project like you would if you were making a new video. Now, import a new file- and choose the testscript.avs file. You'll probably have to tell Premiere to look at all filetypes, since I don't think it will list .avs files as natively being a video file (Premiere 6.5, which I use, I know doesn't- but I don't know if CS3 does or not).

Unless I've left something out, you should now have the video file that you linked to in the script (FILENAME) in Premiere, and you can put it on the timeline and work with it just as if you'd imported the FILENAME video file.

OK, so you may well be thinking, "How the hell is this useful, I could just have imported the file directly...." Well, for what we've just done, you're right. But, you can do a hell of a lot more than just open a file with it. Once you have a file in the AVS script, you can do all sorts of different things with it- including the sharpening you asked about initially. But, let's start by demonstrating something much more obvious and simply done.

Go back to Notepad, and open testscript.avs up again. It's just a normal text file and any text editor can open it, but Notepad is the most common stand-alone way to edit them since it doesn't try and put lots of other crap into the file like WordPad or Word tend to. After the existing line, copy and paste in the following lines:

ConvertToRGB32()
Invert("RBG")

Make sure they are each on their own line. Now, save the file in the same manner as you did initially, only call it "inverted.avs" Next, go back to Premiere and import inverted.avs. Notice anything different? The script should now have inverted the file the same as if you're applied the Invert effect in Premiere.

All the other things you do in AviSynth are done the same way- by entering the commands for the different effects into the script file and then using the script file in Premiere, VirtualDub, etc. as if it were a regular video file. To sharpen all the clips in your video, you would create .avs scripts for each of the files that you that applies one of AviSynth's sharpening filters. Those filters have a hell of a lot more options to set though, so for that you will have to read a bit on them. There's a decent bit that has been discussed on these forums about sharpening filters, so search a bit on it- you'll almost certainly find at least a few examples to try out. But hopefully at least this has shown you what AviSynth can do (at a very basic level) and how you go about getting it to do those things.

I've typed all of this up from memory (except for looking up and checking the syntax for the Invert command...), so hopefully I've not screwed up anywhere.... :P
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Post by Vivaldi » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:32 pm

Typhoon859@GMail.com wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote:avisynth, what it is and how to use it - that might narrow it down a bit for you....
I can;t learn something when every line is just a bunch of facts that I don't see. That's something you do to memorize and answer the questions on a test. Reading what that says doesn't mean I'll be able to apply it in any way when it comes down to doing w/e it is I need to do. The explanation in the beginning of what AVISynth is was just as vague as my understanding of it.
I'm sorry, that's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a long time.

Look, I'll keep this simple. There's alot of stuff in that guide. I doubt you read it, but It spells out exactly what AVIsynth is, just like you're asking us to do.

and

It tells you how to use it, along with follow along instructions.

Now let me explain what it is quickly.

AVIsynth is basicly just code, similer to programing. You just type a code in notepad that selects a video you have, then type in commands and save it as an .avs file. Thats ALL

For instance, to sharpen a Mpeg2 video, you type something like

Code: Select all

MPEG2source("C:\Documents and Settings\Vivaldi\My Documents\My clips\Noein VOBs\DGIndex\VTS_02_4.d2v")
vmToon(strength=0) 
Now tell me exactly, what, if any of that don't you get.[/code]
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Post by Typhoon859 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:34 pm

"AviSynth is, in effect, a video processing scripting language. You take a text file, write a list of commands in it, and save it with the extension .avs. If you've installed the AviSynth plugin for Premiere (which the AMVApp does for you), Premiere will read that file as if it were a video file just like a .avi (assuming you've given it valid commands within that file). "

OH MY GOSH! THANK YOU! Now was that so hard to explain? Thank you. And everything else was helpful as well.

And Vivaldi, I understood everything you said too. Thanks for the example. I'm not an idiot...

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