Trouble switching avi's with avs files in 6.0

Ari-chan · Post by **Ari-chan** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:21 pm

Okay, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask. If it isn't then please move it.

I decided to follow the bait n' switch style of AMV editing for this video. When I origionally tried it out to see if it worked it did just fine. But now I notice some of the other files don't transition quite right when it changes to avs. They end up in different scenes from the ones origionally on the timeline, ususally scenes before it. The framerates for those files were origionally different but I changed to framerate on the avs before editing and when I recompressed them for editing avis they were identical.

also when I switch the video seems to stay the same when rendered. They don't change to the higher quality ones.

So anyone know where I went wrong? Is there anyway I can fix this without starting my project over?

Purge · Post by **Purge** » Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:28 pm

open the avs plugin gui ( should be in the amvapp folder) and check that the resizing algorithm is set to a high quality setting - that may be causing your low quality renders.

OropherZero · Post by **OropherZero** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:33 am

are you working with dvd vobs? I find that vobs are the only stuff you can bait and switch to accurately, avi, mkv and mp4 will result in the problem you've described. I'm waiting for someone to come up with a solution so I can save 100s of gigs of space when dealing with those types of files

Autraya · Post by **Autraya** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:11 pm

do you have your assumefps(blah) turned on in your avs?
does your fps match your project settings?
have you remade/written over the index name in the same folder?
is it possible what you were seeing before was not the right scene anyway due to playback lag? so what is showing now is the correct scene...

wait wut is this? a burly thread x_x

I've noticed last time I used vfapi's that this happened I never found a solution... I was just lucky I'd made a ful timeline export already in lossless format so I replaced the footage.

Purge · Post by **Purge** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:02 am

are you working with dvd vobs? I find that vobs are the only stuff you can bait and switch to accurately, avi, mkv and mp4 will result in the problem you've described.

I can usually bait and switch mkv's fine but i haven't done it excessively.I have had a similar out of sync problem before with premiere because it was interpreting my bait files with a different frame rate. 23.976 was interpreted as 23.98 and i had been editing with that frame rate. When I loaded the switch files they had the 23.976 fps and everything was out of sync. But it was an easy fix - i just put a Assumefps(23.98) command at the end and everything was fine. So yeah you really have to just check the files are behaving correctly when you load them.

Ari-chan · Post by **Ari-chan** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:32 pm

open the avs plugin gui ( should be in the amvapp folder) and check that the resizing algorithm is set to a high quality setting - that may be causing your low quality renders.

Thanks, I checked that and it was set to the high quality setting. The problem is though it still shows the .avi footage rather than the .avs footage when I switch.

are you working with dvd vobs? I find that vobs are the only stuff you can bait and switch to accurately, avi, mkv and mp4 will result in the problem you've described. I'm waiting for someone to come up with a solution so I can save 100s of gigs of space when dealing with those types of files

Yes, I am working with vobs and .avi footage (since my DVD only went to 17 of 26 episodes...never buy bootlegs at conventions, they aren't worth it).

do you have your assumefps(blah) turned on in your avs?
does your fps match your project settings?
have you remade/written over the index name in the same folder?
is it possible what you were seeing before was not the right scene anyway due to playback lag? so what is showing now is the correct scene...

wait wut is this? a burly thread x_x

I've noticed last time I used vfapi's that this happened I never found a solution... I was just lucky I'd made a ful timeline export already in lossless format so I replaced the footage.

Yes I do

Yes it does

I don't think so

It could be that. Is there a way to fix that lagging so I don't keep screwing up with it?

hehehe

No solution? crap, since I tend to have bad luck with every AMV I make.

I can usually bait and switch mkv's fine but i haven't done it excessively.I have had a similar out of sync problem before with premiere because it was interpreting my bait files with a different frame rate. 23.976 was interpreted as 23.98 and i had been editing with that frame rate. When I loaded the switch files they had the 23.976 fps and everything was out of sync. But it was an easy fix - i just put a Assumefps(23.98) command at the end and everything was fine. So yeah you really have to just check the files are behaving correctly when you load them.

My vob avs files already had an fps of 29.97, so I don't think I need to changa that. The avi files I'm working with though are origionally 23.976 and I put the Assumefps(29.97) command before I had even started editing. I did however shorten the low quality .avi files by cutting out the opening sequences to save space. I guess that's where I went wrong as now they aren't the same time as the .avs files.

So should I just redo this project or can I find a way to still fix that mistake?

Thanks everyone for your help and advice. It really is a big help.

Purge · Post by **Purge** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:19 pm

Depends on fast you can reedit i guess

to fix it would require you to make your source Avs files match your LowQ bait files.

you could try to use the "Trim" command in avisynth to remove the parts that are need to match the Lowq bait files. But you have to know the exact frame numbers where you made the cuts.

another also is the program you used to make your d2v files to load the vobs in avisynth. It can be used to create a d2v file that wont include the OP or ED sections - the program has sliders like virtual dub where you can choose the footage you want.

sweetdeily · Post by **sweetdeily** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:04 am

Ari-chan wrote:It could be that. Is there a way to fix that lagging so I don't keep screwing up with it?

and another Aussie joins the fur pile.
I found allocating more memory to .avs helped me... and not using my laptop but editing on my old PC, I was also using a different version of premiere back then now I get terrible lag when using premiere pro 1.5 and either avs or vfapi's.
What codec are you rendering playback in?

Ari-chan · Post by **Ari-chan** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:19 pm

sweetdeily wrote:
Ari-chan wrote:It could be that. Is there a way to fix that lagging so I don't keep screwing up with it?
and another Aussie joins the fur pile.
I found allocating more memory to .avs helped me... and not using my laptop but editing on my old PC, I was also using a different version of premiere back then now I get terrible lag when using premiere pro 1.5 and either avs or vfapi's.
What codec are you rendering playback in?

I'm rendering with Huffyuv