Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement

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Scott Green
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Post by Scott Green » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:07 am

Kionon wrote:...and actually since coming to Japan, I buy MORE DVDs than I ever did. Hell, I just bought the KOR second movie for the THIRD time, and all I wanted was the Twin figures that came in the special R2 box...
There we have it, if you can get your hands on it, you probably buy it. I think the companies should agonize about how fast and cheap they can get their stuff out to us, instead of how-can-I-sue-this-goddamn-little-downloading-motherfucker-that-actually-can't-buy-my-stuff-because-it's-not-out-yet...

and if we already talk about iPods. Who would buy an iPod with 150GB+ space, if he/she would think about making this iPod full legally...
Rob Sheridan wrote:"....and if I filled my shiny new 160gb iPod up legally, buying each track online at the 99 cents price that the industry has determined, it would cost me about $32,226...." - http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2007/10/w ... th-of.html
head hurt?

but on the other hand, who am I to talk? I don't know much about what fucked up things are going on out there...

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Post by Jasta85 » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:04 am

all big buisness decisions end up coming down to money in the end. i honestly dont have a problem with that because buisnesses are there to make money, however many industries (the music industry probably most prominently) go way overboard with retaliation and they dont look into ways to actually adapt to the situation.

Anime companies complaining that people in america are downloading fansubs and not buying their dvd's should consider the fact that their dvd's come out months, sometimes even years after the show began (look at naruto, they didnt start the english broadcast until 3 years after the japanese one.) when anime and manga fans have seen a series, or have heard of one (maybe a favorite director or author has just begun a new series) they do not want to sit around waiting for a year to see it, they want it NOW.

i used to buy DVD's all the time, i had the entire yu yu hakusho collection up through just after the dark tournament finished but at the time that was all that had been released on DvD, and then i found out that the darn series was already finished and i could get the remaining 40 or so episodes online. i would gladly have paid for those episodes to download them just as i paid for the DvD's but the only ones online were fansubs, there were no legal ones online so illegally downloading them was the only choice i had (either that or wait another year to finish the series).

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Post by Sukunai » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:26 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
Autraya wrote:Piracy is defined as "the unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted book, recording, television program, patented invention, trademarked product, etc."
Actually, Piracy is defined as "Terror on the high seas" - the hundreds of years of deep connotative meaning is why they use the word after all. "copyright infringement" doesn't have the same venomous ring to it.
Damn that reply was sure brilliance :)
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Post by Sukunai » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:32 pm

"There we have it, if you can get your hands on it, you probably buy it. I think the companies should agonize about how fast and cheap they can get their stuff out to us, instead of how-can-I-sue-this-goddamn-little-downloading-motherfucker-that-actually-can't-buy-my-stuff-because-it's-not-out-yet.."

Precisely, I download because I can, and I don't buy the stuff often because no one even tried.
And I call "tried" as being defined as marketing in a way that makes me give a damn.

And I largely concur with Jasta85's last post above.

The industry either enters this century and acts like it realizes its in this century, or they can forget about complaining that the audience prefers to use the benefits of this century against them.
Anime, one of the few things about the internet that doesn't make me hate the internet.

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Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:38 pm

To me this Act will do one other thing...

It Saves the Corporations thier money and has the Government spent ours to fight Piracy on thier behalf... That's what is really ironic in the end, my very own tax dollars go to help shut down my hobby of running AMV rooms at cons.

Vlad

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Post by Castor Troy » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:51 pm

It's time to fight the power and evade our taxes!
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Post by Goketsu » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:20 pm

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:To me this Act will do one other thing...

It Saves the Corporations thier money and has the Government spent ours to fight Piracy on thier behalf... That's what is really ironic in the end, my very own tax dollars go to help shut down my hobby of running AMV rooms at cons.

Vlad
ya =/
its kinda like they are biting off the hand that feeds them

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Post by Goketsu » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:20 pm

Castor Troy wrote:It's time to fight the power and evade our taxes!
YES! 8-) xD

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Post by anime wardrone » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:08 pm

ugh more stupid and pointless bills passed everyday >_< unfortunately i haven't been following this much so i don't know all the facts but i don't see how if u can dl it legally u can be arrested for crossing boarders with it i understand the piracy issue but i don't think im gonna cross a boarder to sell amvs or something like that

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Post by godix » Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:24 am

Will someone please let me know when the penalty for walking into a store, waving a gun around, and swiping the physical DVD is less than downloading it off the net
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