would like to get a series confirmed

NS · Post by NS » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:55 pm

Funny thing is, if this were allowed on the site it would be one of the most legal things uploaded. It's not actually copyrighted anime since it's fanmade, plus the person who made it fully gives permission, no, he endorses its use.

Org Profile · Post by **Vlad G Pohnert** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:32 am

NerdStrudel wrote:Funny thing is, if this were allowed on the site it would be one of the most legal things uploaded. It's not actually copyrighted anime since it's fanmade, plus the person who made it fully gives permission, no, he endorses its use.

well, sort of... if you make an AMV using the footage only, the music is what the biggest problem is if that is not original (in the AMV)..

Vlad

NS · Post by NS » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:35 am

yah, I know... but still man. What we do with the anime isn't exactly Tax deductable. I realise the music is the big problem because, well, music peoplez are pricks, but yah.

Org Profile · Post by **Vlad G Pohnert** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:47 am

I'm just getting some feedback from my fellow admins/mods here in regards of a final decision.. so give me a day or two...

Thanks for all the feedback here though... Expecially from the creator of the footage! I sure hope it helped you get that job

Vlad

Autraya · Post by **Autraya** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:27 am

NerdStrudel wrote:Funny thing is, if this were allowed on the site it would be one of the most legal things uploaded. It's not actually copyrighted anime since it's fanmade, plus the person who made it fully gives permission, no, he endorses its use.

it still falls under IP laws. Which means using it(without permission and a contract signing over IP rights) is a breach of IP rights.
>.< I hate Intellectual Property laws they are a pain in the ass.

Jasta85 · Post by **Jasta85** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:52 pm

dont suppose there are any updates on this issue, just curious

Org Profile · Post by **Vlad G Pohnert** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:22 pm

Been Very Busy this weekend.... All with AWA Deadline, Anime Evolution/Animethon Contests... I do this all in my spare time

However, I'll post the final decision about this tommorrow night

Vlad

Org Profile · Post by **Vlad G Pohnert** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:24 pm

In Summary: I've decided to allow the use of Dead Fantasy as approved footage. It should be noted that the footage is right on the border of what is defined as anime here and the decision is based on the following:

- The videos are based directly of anime approved character (Actually more like replicas)
- The entire concept is directly based on an approved anime title(s) (Final Fantasy, etc)
- There are some borrowed elements that go back directly to the anime
- The creator of it has not objected to its use in an AMV.

Also, based on the current rules we are operating, we do mention:

"There is always going to be a grey area where a judgment will have to be made. We try our best to accommodate creativity and be as flexible as we can".

As we want always want to have some flexibility in grey areas, this is considered a special case and was judge solely on that. This does not mean that every fan made animation will be acceptable here based on this decision, but that each one will be judged on a case by case basis as required. Keep in mind this was already very borderline and so other variants may not be necessarily accepted.

Vlad

Jasta85 · Post by **Jasta85** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:42 pm

wooooooot, i had been just about to give up hope
and yes i think that with the borderliners like this taking them in on a case by case basis works, i dont think there are too many fan made animations like DF that are animeish enough to be considered similar to anime that it would be a huge problem to look at them one at a time. at least there are not too many yet, that may change in the future

anyway, i'm actually in the process of doing one final edit of my amv thanks to great feedback from some people who got interested in it from this thread, i should have it up by tonight hopefully.